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and thought, "Oh, gee." I sort of freaked out "This is your stop." the conductor come along, he said - And so in the morning, I just sat there. on the train to Central. When I was 18, they put me to Cootamundra Girls Training Home. And then from there you move on down to Bomaderry. I was taken from the hospital And I always will. But I call it kidnapped. stolen generation, yes. Well, I am of the she grew up with. But it wasn't her family western New South Wales. Nancy was raised in While Tony grew up in the city, of each other has flourished. their friendship and support didn't last the distance, And even though the marriage married 38 years ago. Nancy and Tony Woods you've gotta do it, you know. because that's the way "Can I drive it?" first, his car I ask him, Yes, well, when I drive My car. something, I ask him - When I've got - if I want Tony supports me in a lot of ways. BY JACK JOHNSON PLAYS 'BETTER TOGETHER' are real and enduring. Friendships that the competitive nature of sport. defy political pressure and cross cultural boundaries These friendships Best friends, to be exact. Our first story is about friends. (Thinks) Yummy, dinner. with our coat of arms. shows us what he'd like to do And The Black Olive about best friends. Our first story is lined up for you this week. So we've got a bit of a fun show and our achievements. to celebrate our culture The week that we get together enjoying NAIDOC week. I hope you're all

about my own people then. I wanted to learn to know a journey of her own. Nancy had to go on A few years into the marriage, We're people. That's right. We're all people, we're not colours. from...saying nasty things. That sort of stopped a lot of people I knocked a bloke out. On one occasion, But I managed to get over that. ..people saying nasty things. when we did have... There was some times Yeah, quite a bit. marrying an Aboriginal woman? Did you cop any flack for And he was terrible, wasn't he? his teeth all the time. and he used to grind because this Minister, he was old I used to have Tony in fits But when we used to go and practise, The 16th of December in... '67. we got married. This is what happened, That's what I said. "Well, we can't live in sin." I said to Tony, I said, You know why? And... and eventually we got married. So it just went on and on and I just was attracted to her. She was just a pretty-looking girl gone through as a girl in a home. Well, I didn't realise what she'd Nothing like that. I wouldn't know what auntie, uncle - I wouldn't know what dad is. I wouldn't know what mum is. of those words are nothing. Those... The meanings uncle, cousin, whatever." And they said, "I'm your auntie, remember 'cause I'm too shy. they probably did but I can't know if they gave me a hug and that, When I got off, they... I don't that Aboriginal people kill you. in our histories Because we were taught And you know I was so scared. standing there, just the legs. and I saw Aboriginal people And I've looked out the window

But it wasn't always like this. making Andrew, his boss. for the State Government, These days, Sol works activist for Indigenous equal rights. Indigenous leader and long-time The other is Sol Bellear - Good to see you. How are you, brother? Minister for Aboriginal Affairs. State Treasurer, and of New South Wales, The Deputy Premier One is Dr Andrew Refshauge. to catch up and reminisce. two old mates decided Celebrating NAIDOC week together, got stronger in ourselves. because we have all to get on and be strong and now it's time tears and crying of my life, and I've had all the In those days, it was so hurtful TI woman... # (Sings) # I am strong Aboriginal everything falls down. And...if we don't help each other living in the one house. Oh well, we're all And that makes the family happy. about it all, you know? And this is the thing we're divorced, we're friends. Well, you know, even though for anyone. there wasn't anything there There wasn't anything there for us, all that sort of thing. Marriage guidance and call it, Tony, for marriages? There wasn't any - what do you ..after a while. a lot of help in our marriage... Well, the thing is, we needed it just happened, I got strong. And there and then was and who my mother was. And I learnt to know who my father where I was and who I was. I had to do this to know who came from where I came from. and meet my people the car over to Redfern And I used to drive But I had to get to know who I was. would have understood or not. And it was... I don't know if Tony

You don't DO that. The first thing, it was fantastic to have a job. Second, it was... "Why can't I make things better?" I was in a place, where there was obviously a lot of people who were constantly sick. It was incredibly depressing. I didn't have the skills for it. But it was more than that, and this is - I don't think I actually said this to Sol, but it was a matter of... he realised in some form that I needed to be a bit more educated for what was going on. And what we used to do with the white doctors is that we'd make sure they looked at the community first so that you didn't treat the individual, you treated the entire community. You didn't just stitch the wound. No... Because the wound was out there within the establishment. And you know, one day you could be in the clinic and the next day you'd be marching down the street with banners. How do we sack white people? how can we sack people here?" And we thought, "Hang on a minute, matrons, I mean... White sisters what to do, white doctors what to do. And here we were telling we were the bosses. an Aboriginal board... that we realised as Here we were, the first time, No... to get rid of me or not. I didn't know whether you wanted it was fantastic. And he wouldn't sack me, and I just kept turning up. hoping the job was still there so I came the next Monday anything after the week, And...nobody said I'm employed or not. that determines whether Sol was on the board And I found out that a doctor for a week. And they said we need so I wrote a note. Aboriginal Medical Service, I should try to get to the Somebody suggested a salary for the community. working as a GP on I was really keen to get a job And Dr Refshauge worked for him. Medical Service in Redfern. Sol was in charge of the Aboriginal Back in the '70s, Or you might be visiting, do a house call in a pub... Yeah. Or you... You're down in the police station trying to see what's going on. Or called out at night, because the cops have bashed a heap of blacks in the cells. It was a genuine social justice issue for non-Aboriginal people to come in. That was also a big challenge for me. The idea of... ..your patients, effectively, being your boss. So I was, as a doctor, able to prescribe what people need for malnutrition - fruit and vegies. This is a really exciting thing. I didn't think of it. That came from the community. My idea was that it should be for free. It's a prescription, you get your medicines for free. Community said no. A contribution. So you don't take away people's pride. That's amazing. Here was I saying, "No, they need it. Take it." People who are dirt-poor, insisting that other dirt-poor people pay a contribution for it, so that they don't get demeaned by the program. Because it was also a learning curve for Aboriginal people. And we were...My experience was hitting the streets, you know? You do what had to be done right there and then. Andrew also educated us into his whole boardroom stuff. It was a two-way thing, wasn't it? Well, I found the one way, I didn't know it was happening the other way. I was learning so much myself. It was hard to know if I was teaching anything. But I thought - "If you want to get better education, get better housing, "you work on the racism." And I thought all of those things, actually, to some degree are in the levers of State Government. In 1983, Dr Refshauge was elected to New South Wales Parliament and became the Member for inner city Marrickville. I learnt from Redfern more than I could ever write down. I learnt stuff there... I suppose vice versa. I leant stuff there that has influenced my decisions even to today. It's funny but, although everybody knows what my title is and what my job is, when I'm sitting down with Sol and mates, whoever, all of a sudden we're back on first name terms and it' know, you're back at home with your community. ANNOUNCER: O'Loughlin, 40 metres and no more than 2 metres high. Australian football - it's fast, hard and often spectacular. Sydney Swans players, Michael O'Loughlin and Adam Goodes have played together since 1997. But these two share more than just football. I got here a bit before Adam, obviously, and this is my 11th year. To sort of have Adam rock up at the footy club was pretty special, I suppose. I said to Mum, like, you know, I said, "We've got this guy and this guy "and we got another bloke called Adam Goodes." Apparently he's a blackfella. Um, and Mum goes, "Well, that's your cousin." And I just sort of rolled my eyes and went, "Oh, jeez," And I felt, I thought the same thing as Michael did and... You know, how everyone says that we're all cousins and we're all related somewhere down the line, but, you know, it turned out to be true. Adam Goodes has played around 150 games of top level football. And Michael's played alongside him in virtually all of them. But when Michael can't train on the field, Adam keeps him close by - by swapping jerseys and wearing his brother boy's number 19. Yeah, friendships are really important... I think with mine and Michael's friendship we get on at three different levels. The sporting level, at home level and just being young Aboriginal fellas growing up. 'BETTER TOGETHER' BY JACK JOHNSON PLAYS Adam's one of my best mates. I know he's always there. When I was going through some injuries in sort of 2003, where... you know, I was just really struggling sort of mentally. I'd just sort of sitting around and watching games and watching the boys train, it's pretty frustrating and obviously he's just told me to keep my head up. When it's really tough, you talk to the people that you can count on. MAN: Melbourne v The Sydney Swans... The same year that Michael was out with injuries, his best mate Adam Goodes won the highest honour for an AFL footballer - The Brownlow Medal. I was crying, I think... I was, I got on to the phone with him, and I just sort of burst into tears. Obviously when Adam first came here to winning the Brownlow, has been a massive step for himself. And it's all put down to basically hard work and he's been a great role model and, yeah, just a fantastic effort. I just, you know, you get me a bit emotional now, I'll start crying now... Think it was just a nice pat on the back for everyone at the Swans to know that, you know, we really trained and played really hard that year. And obviously I get to be the face of winning that Brownlow. INTERVIEWER: And your mum. And Mum, as well. Still signing autographs... Even when I asked her to go to the Brownlow, she was really excited and... Why do you wanna go with me?, Don't you have a young girl to take? EDDIE MAGUIRE: Lisa, how are you feeling, looking at your son up here? I'm elated, I still can't believe it. A lot of people probably don't know, Mum was walking round barefoot that night at the Brownlow. She - 'cause I bought her some new shoes that week leading up to... She wanted flash shoes for the Brownlow so she'd look deadly and that. And they were hurting her feet so I said, "Take 'em off." So she was just walking around with bare feet, you know? She might strangle me for letting you know that, but anyone that was there would've seen it. I don't have to do anything more for the rest of my life. She's pretty happy. Yeah, very happy woman. Yeah, playing with other blackfellas on the field is fantastic. I wish the... I mean, you go back sort of 10 years ago there was only probably about 10 Aboriginal boys playing. And now, there's probably round about 60. So that's unbelievable numbers. Obviously, the bond between Michael and I is very strong being cousins. He helps me out when I'm a bit down. To know that someone else is out there who's come from where I've come from is just a nice feeling. (Sings operatically) # Oh, my life is shit... # Deb Mailman is an actor who's adored by thousands of fans. And the winner is... ..Deborah Mailman. But she's loved best of all by her closest friend. Her Murri countryman, theatre director, Wesley Enoch. I remember the day that he came up and introduced himself and he just had an incredibly warm energy about him. And there was the sense that he was going to look after me. DIDGERIDOO MUSIC PLAYS In 1993, they collaborated on a theatre piece that would change both their lives - 'Seven Stages of Grieving'. We were always looking for something to do together. A project to work on together. My grandmother passed away. And I went, and I talked to her about it. I talked to her about what it meant to lose this elder from my family, and the stories that she took to the grave. And Deb encouraged me to say, "Well let's... Maybe that's the project we have to do." We didn't know what we were going to do, but we knew we'd do it together. The protest of my mother's mother cut short. Silenced by a single wave of a stick. Told not to speak, not to dance, told not to do what we have always done. Well, 'Grieving' is not an autobiography, it's not Deborah Mailman getting up on stage and telling her own personal stories. Hey, nice hair... Basically, we've created a character of an Indigenous everywoman. I'm black. We've both grown into our work. In terms of our confidence and being relaxed within that confidence. From where I've been to where I am now, that's a lot to do with Wesley in terms of my skill as an actor. When you're working with your best mate you both feel challenged. But you also feel like you can rely on them, you can relax on them too. And sometimes, you know, that I felt that I let her down sometimes. And she let me down sometimes, because you've gotta keep negotiating. He's straight-up with you... You know, if things aren't quite working, he doesn't try and hide that and pretend that it's all going good. Just get a big more energy at the beginning of that scene. He's incredibly inspiring, he's fiercely intelligent. His vision about Indigenous theatre and Indigenous arts in general is just so powerful. Both Deb and Wesley are considered hot talents and are constantly working. But being busy leaves little time for hanging out with friends. Well, we have not yet snuggled together and watched videos. (Laughs) I don't know if that'll ever happen. When we are together, we're together and that's really great. And the we're apart, I just think about her. Like I was in New York recently, I just text her. You know, saying, "Oh, I'm in this bar... da-da-da" And she'll text back saying, "Don't go home alone," like this... She's naughty, it's great. I've had the fortune of working with him over the last few years on a number of productions so that sort of keeps us together in that sense. Like I just finished doing 'The Sapphires', which he directed. And that was over, a process of like four or five months. So that was probably the longest time I've spent with him in a while. And that was great because I think we've both grown into our work. 'HIGHER AND HIGHER' PLAYS I think most people will know that Deb is funny and she's vivacious and she's smiley... But I think that what they may suspect and I what I know to be true is that she's really fragile too. And she's vulnerable and I've seen her cry. But she lives in extremes like that, too. She lives with this huge kind of public profile and she has these moments of sitting down by herself, knowing herself, and that's really great to see. I don't think there's too many secrets about Wesley... be honest. I don't think, there's not much that I know that other people wouldn't know, you know what I mean? Like he's very honest, he's very straight up. I wanted to have his babies... INTERVIEWER: And how's that going? Oh, it's not. It's not happening... Oh, we, Deborah and I, we've always said, "Let's have a baby together." And we've never done it. So, Deborah, if you're out there watching this, let's make it happen. I'll ring you. OK, bye! And now it's over to our chef, Mark Olive, for some special NAIDOC week tucker. 'ADVANCE AUSTRALIA FAIR' PLAYS MARK: I have to say, when I look at our country's coat of arms, the first thought that comes into my head is "Yummy, dinner." There you go, Sir, kangaroo fillets. Do you get things like wallaby and other Indigenous meats or do you just get kangaroo in? We don't have it in stock, but we can get it whenever you please, just give us a couple of days notice. Yeah, fantastic. DRUM MUSIC PLAYS Kangaroo is really one of the best meats you can eat. Really lean, really good if you're a diabetic. I've also got some emu meat for this recipe. My mate Kevin is an expert at carving emu eggs. I'm doing a bunda, it's a kangaroo. Then I do similar to what I've done in there, a style where I put the X-ray figures inside the kangaroo. The X-rays are like a map to show Indigenous people where the best cuts of meat are. This is the bit that we're cooking today. And it just on the top of the tail here. It's like a fillet mignon, but, what could we call it? A ROO-let mignon. What I've gotta do here is cut it across the grain 'cause if you cut it with the grain it becomes quite tough and stringy. I've just got some smoked emu here that I've sliced up nice and thinly. Dress it up like a fillet mignon. See, a toothpick goes in around the side. Throughout Europe now, kangaroo is eaten by Europeans all the time. Yeah, worried about mad cow... It's sad that, isn't it? I mean, everything in Aboriginal culture has to take off overseas before it takes off here. What I'm gonna do is just seal these first... OK, now I'm gonna cook the rest of it through in the oven. 'Cause we still want that nice, pink inner moisture of the kangaroo meat. It's only on about 150 so it's a nice slow heat. But you like a mushroom sauce, don't you? Yeah, I love mushrooms. in a little bit of macadamia nut oil. OK, I'm just frying these off now in a little bit of macadamia nut oil. I want to make a little bit of a roux with that as well. We're not talking about a KANGAROO here. We're talking about a roux, which is 'r-u-e'. (Laughs) Not an 'r-double o'. A little bit of butter. A little bit of flour. Whip it up together, the water and the flour and then add your milk. This is the Murrin Bridge, Aboriginal-owned winery. SONG: # All night long...(Echoes) # Chop some of this saltbush up now. # All night long-long-long... # The salt will come off those leaves, gives it a nice salty flavour. Porcini mushrooms. I worked in this restaurant and the Americans would come down and you'd say, "What have you got on your menu?" And you'd say, "I got kangaroo," and they'd say, (American accent) "My God, you're eating your coat of arms." It was really weird. It was... (Laughs) It was bizarre. What I'm gonna add now is some native thyme. Some native pepper berries. SIZZLING So where did you learn this? I learnt this in my hometown of Moree. Yeah. And my grandfather was also a carver of eggs, on my dad's side. They were very much well-known carvers, were the Gamilaroi people. Now, what I'm gonna do now is blanch the saltbush and the warrigal greens. Into a little bit of cold water 'cause that keeps the green. That's deadly, cuz, that's great. GLASSES CLINK See you then next week on Message Stick. Closed Captions provided by Captioning and Subtitling International Pty Ltd