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What for the Government to make a What we'd like is

commitment to maintain that's - the government pad commitment to maintain the area

objection. -

CC Hello and welcome to weekend and another Stateline. Hello and welcome to another

up - one of Canberra's heroes. And the ring trails and paddocks around the region under the gun. This week, the week, the circus surrounding replay has dominated the media. by The relay has been disruchted

protests right by pro- Tibet human rights

world. Canberra is the only Australian city to host a leg of the car you the torch on April champion Michael Milton will champion Michael Milton of the relay. Paralympic

He spoke with Chris Kimball car you the torch on April 24.

earlier today. As I someone is trying to grap the earlier today. As I speak,

torch and two more protest ers are coming out something I've been look ing The torch has been

forward to for so long. I such a wonderful forward to for so long. I had

carrying the torch here in 2000 such a wonderful experience

and it's always been so much fun. With the vision you're seeing on television I say I'm a little about it. I am say I'm a little apprehensive

committed to it and looking forward to it but I hope whole issue will maybe settle down and people will listen to the Dalai Lama and if they want peacefully. You were involved to protest they will do it

in the torch relays at the Sydney ploings and the Athen gairges how stark has the Sydney ploings and the Athen s

contrast preparation for those and contrast been for the

one for Beijing? It would be so sad if what was created in Sydney and what we all during the Sydney Olympic Sydney and what we all saw

Games, the atmosphere of everyone getting together and feeling what the Olympic is, to lose that would be so feeling what the Olympic spirit

sad for such a long time. say that people - the cause has been push sod strongly forward by this that you've got to say in the strongly forward by this event

future other people definitely be looking at this event to be able to protest and to put their the to put their cause forward to been given any indication heard on the news just as everyone else has Mr Rogge said they're committed to continuing the torch. They're trying to use some different strategies to what they did in San Francisco. So I would like to think by the time it gets to Canberra they will have relatively well out. You've been involved in different humanitarian causes in the past, do you sort have any sympathy for protesters or have any have any sympathy for the

feel? Absolutely. I think the protesters or have any mixed

Tibetan cause has been going on for such a long time and needs to be closely commam China's human rights record

wrind. For me, the needs to be closely commam exam

should be wrind. For me, the protest and the Chinese Government and the Olympic movement should be I would like to think in ideal world it would be above I would like to think in an

all. That we saw it that road in Moscow and that road in the early '80s in

were hurt in that were the athletes who train sod hard and missed out on going because the country pros test boycotted. Do country pros test - protesters are jaus boycotted. Do you think the

fied? Everyone has the right to protest peacefully and there are a number of different forms that protests might take and it might be holding up a for some it might be choosing to buy an Australian-made product. You would like to wrong, like the Chinese product. You would like to see

Government on. Is enough focus being put Government being focussed

on the action? I would say the focus needs to go back on the Chinese Government and focus needs to go back on to

what they're going to do in the their human rights record and

tability security side of things? For my own personal safety I target an bearer. They're going for the tomp, the media impact. So a personal tomp, the media impact. So from

worried. What do you we will see on April torch and me Michael Milton is still aiming to win a place in the team for the Beijing pks. One

of the many benefits of the many - Paralympics. One

in the bush cap talg is making the pastime of number of bush corridors,

riders accessible. But as the making the pastime of horse

need for housing grows some of this land is being lost development this land is being lost to today's announcement of a data development and then came

centre to be built at which will see an ind least one of the pad Phillip Williams reports sh - pa docks.- - paddocks. Phillip Williams reports. This second home. If I'm not at Williams reports. This is my

and not at home, this is where you will find me. It's the same with a lot of people at the outlet,et's our form some have a house down recreation. Some goes skiing,

coast, some renovate their some have a house down the

homes and work on gardens, this is what we do. My name is Heather McLeod. I've Heather McLeod. I've been associated with the government paddocks most of my life. paddocks most of my life. I grow grew up kid we had horses and as an adult I've been in these paddock s for tleer ly 25 years. - nearly 25 years. If you love horse, Canberra has long been the city to live in, with a network of and cheap government paddocks. Tell price difference. If you didn't have the what you you in Is the government paddock s are about $18 a week a are about $18 a week a horse. You're water and you have to pay water and you have to pay for extra feed in a drought. At other agistment location you have to pay $35 a week. Would that put people out? Oh, that put people out? Oh, yes, a lot of people perceive riding to be elitist but riding to be elitist but this is accessible for a lot of families, it's close to home and relatively in expensive. There are already 100 horses on a waiting list for the place in the government paddocks but the problem is it's not just horses eyeing it's not just horses eyeing off the grass. the grass. Where horses once grades, grades, heavy machines now devour whole paddocks. devour whole paddocks. This will be the new low west suburb of West McGregor. We've lost 1.5 paddocks up here to the West These paddocks are such a valuable asset to valuable asset to Canberra. Canberra's got cricket fields and football fields and football fields and, you know, you're

know, you're not going to build houses on houses on a cricket pitch so I feel, you know, we've got this valuable sporting facility here, primarily used by and children, and, you know, quite a few of them are in danger of being built on. How would your life How would your life change if you didn't have this? I would probably move out of town. Seriously? Seriously. I love this place. It's wonderful. My friends are here. My horses are here. This is place to relax. It's my place to relax. It's my place to socialise. Um, and if we didn't have this facility, didn't have this facility, I've still got horses and I'm still got horses and I'm not going to give them up, so I would have to look for somewhere else. Horse owners tell us the situation has been going backwards going backwards in a number of location, even here the dump. We've been hold the dump. We've been hold that these pad these pad objection won't be here in five years. First of all, there's going to be a gas fired power road from the dump. Here on this paddock 21 been taken for the gas fired power station and a computer hub that will employ hub that will employ 600 people. We realise some land has to go and some land has to be developed and jobs are extremely important. But make a commitment to the area that's paddocks to provide other land

in other places that we in other places that we could use as an alternative this. But that is not likely. Responding to concerns raised by the by the ACT equestrian Association, Jon Stanhope replied, when land used for horse paddocks development, it's un likely that other be available for be available for horse agistment. Despite being featured live in Canberra appears the horses and their owners are expendable extras. You see government paddock here for horses, other people may see houses for young people. It's a balance ing act. Yes, and I can see the argument s possibly for lot of the paddocks - lot of the paddocks - paddocks have been cited on land that was inappropriate for If you look across we have powerlines running through the mild and it's to major arterial roads to major arterial roads and there are have been developed in sites as buffers to industrial

Why Why is this important to you, this area? Because so many places to ride and so many good people to many good people to ride this. With I've been riding since was three, so giving it all up would be hard. What would you lose if you could no lose if you could no longer come here? My nowhere else to go if everywhere is all booked up. So you would have to give riding? Yeah. And how big a loss would that be for would be awful. Before I started, I started, I watched TV every afternoon, now I'm out here every day and it's a great thing to do, great exercise and such goods friends. I think there's a lot a of isolation in suburb ya. When people are in community groups like in community groups like this, they really feel a sense belonging. Next time you book a flight to Newcastle or Albury, consider yourself service still operates. pilot shortage. has just one regional operator, Brindabella Airlines, and as Phillip Williams reports, it Phillip Williams reports, it is holding the line holding the line against rampant poaching of its but only just. It's been a long time pilots have flown much higher, in such short supply the best and brightest have by the biggest. by the biggest. Leaving regional operators like Canberra's Brindabella Airlines scrambling to fill the void. The last 12 months has been the worst. We've probably lost just over captains in the last 12 months, of which most of those went in the last the last eight months. Virgin, Qantas, all the other low cost carriers that have come have really need add lot of flight crew in a hurry quently they've - subsequently they've harvest ed from us. So you always expect to lose people but not as people but not as many as we've Loos Loos flos the last 12 months. My name is Joseph Hallam, I've been working Hallam, I've been working for bribd brind for four years so started all my started all my flying training in about 2000. Joseph Hallam is just the later in a steady stream of smaller airline force big smaller airline force big boys. In his case, Virgin Blue?: We all want to learn something new, so that is and foremost. Secondly there's opportunity financially as well. And the regionals well. And the regionals pay up to a certain limit and that's basically on economies of scale. But after scale. But after that, yeah, most of dollars for what we do. has maintained all but it hasn't been easy. Because we have a flying school within our organisation, we actually train pilots. So we've recruited from we've recruited from our instructors. There's also instructors. There's also a shortage everyone wants to be an airline pilot. We've also recruited from overseas. We've got some South African chaps coming South African chaps coming to work for us work for us next movement thae just to inject some experience back in. You can't keep put people in at the bottom end. need to ex inject some experience to the company. You can see this down here. These like Tuggeranong college students are the xeps in their class, studying aviation class, studying aviation theory in partnership with Brindabella Airlines. They're different because both are determined to make it as pilots, make it as pilots, despite the huge cost of training. To be an arliner you 1,000 hours at at least and I have 14 at the moment. have 14 at the moment. So pretty long way to go. At of cost? At a lot of cost. of cost? At a lot of cost. It's costing us - costing me $152 an hour. My parents are paying a bit to help me taken a lot of burden off me. But... Realistically, do you think you will be able to afford to go through this system? I I hope I can. system? I I hope I can. , yeah, it will yeah, it will be a struggle at times but it times but it is possible. Just opening up the cap and you have a dipstick there. We're probably get ing less than 10% of the kids that do the the school comes out here for the training. Given the pilot shortage, why aren't they shortage, why aren't they going on? It's probably cost of on? It's probably cost of what it costs to become a pilot as opposed to what they can aern in Canberra in the service or private sector where someone else will fund their training. It will cost someone $85,000 to become an apprentice airline pilot, if you like. Some sort of a HECS-based system would be good. The Government has to that this is a chronic that this is a chronic shortage of skills and there needs to of skills and there needs to be some government assistance some government assistance to help these people get these skills. What is the the Government at the moment? - of the Government at the moment? Pretty quiet so far. We will see what happens with new government. To stay in the game, Brindabella has had to make a few changes to hold staff. Piloties staff. Piloties can now base themselves in Newcastle themselves in Newcastle or Port Macquarie. There's cheaper housing and much better housing and much better surf than Canberra. But with no apparent end to demand, it seems more are making the decision to move on. demand is very strong, it 50's great time to be a pilot. - it's a great time to be a pilot. Does it make you angry that lisk ing off the training you've given the people that you've brought through? It doesn't make us angry, it would be nice to see some sort be nice to see some sort of compromise the big guys. So far Canberra has escaped the shut downs forced by planes without pilots. That gap in part be filled by overseas be filled by overseas recruits. How long before the big players start - start yieg them start - start yieg them off too snnd ate's a very long drive Canberra tos that Canberra to Williams was the reporter there. He there. He does more work for this program when he's not working for was the first woman to head a Commonwealth government agency. And to hold the powers of And to hold the powers of a permanent head in the public service. Mostly deby hind the scenes she's been a tireless worker women's policy issues equal pay and child care. Now at 75 she's She took time out of her still very busy life her story with me. My father was a railway man when with the NSW Government railways. So that tends to that you move and my mother was always very keen on achieving higher grades and Moing up higher grades and Moing up in career terms. So we career terms. So we moved fairly frequently. It was at one stage I remember I used joke to people and I thought it was funny I the Senate because I went to school in so many places. Tell us about the at the telegraph? It didn't last very long. It was a University non-vocation. I still have one friends still have one friends who dates from when I dates from when I was sent off to interview her slight to interview her slight ly younger sister. I had to about how wonderful upcoming ball was Now the time is 8 o'clock we continue with news. What sort news. What sort of scripts were you writing for ABC in the late '50s and early '6 '50s and early '6 os? I started with the ABC in both what used to be the old talks to be the old talks department and in those days nobody allowed loose on live allowed loose on live radio without a script. I without a script. I liked doing that. By that time I was home with three children under four, and there's a limit intellectual fascination in nap kibs.- in napkins. I am sure many women watching many women watching would result to that. So result to that. So having things like that that I could do and be interested in was good. So when did you interested in social interested in social policy issues in what became very involved once I started work as a hospital social worker in trying to find people who Haddin stroke. And that - had had stroke and we had moved on policy change and then I slid into public policy. What have been the big policy issues as you see it in your working life? Well, the policy issues for women have changed enormously over the last couple of decades with the very large number of number of women going back into work. There were not as many women in the work force in the '60s as proportionate ly as there are now. So although I made the remark real availability of child care in the '60s, it was nefrl becoming a quite clear You were always balancing your family responsibilities and if you're in the work haven't really changed. They've just become something that just become something that new generations of young women with children keep children keep discovering and we don't seem to have done very well so far in adapt ing public policies to really help these people. Bear in mind that people got times in the '70s about many things you could do at once. I things that I was appointed by the Whitlam Government was Government was that I was consistently described as a weekend supermum. There was Liz Reid who was Minister's supergirl, and I was the weekend super mum the weekend super mum which was extremely trying because extremely trying because my peer was Dr Sachs, who was chairing the hospital's health services health services commission and I don't think I ever saw a headline that refer ed to headline that refer ed to him as a weekend superdad. I would be Mary Gordon saying that be Mary Gordon saying that we won equal pay and then we won equal pay again and we won equal pay again and as you know the ACTU has just issued a report which demonstrates that women are still not receiving equal pay. We don't call it that any longer. We saw that any longer. We saw ill the gender equity issue. In of child care, and preschools, I feel more hopeful about the sorts Government says it wants to do. But I do worry that we But I do worry that we are now spending so much money on the taxation relief side of things rather than seeing that going into the pro vision more extensive provision of quality care. I think you could have a mixed economy could have a mixed economy that there is - there have people in the people in the private sector who have been running child care senters but the kind of market dominance of market dominance which will be allowed to occur in Australia has been extremely un healthy and as Ross gittins said recently it's very easily y to splash a lot of y to splash a lot of kbrel yellow paint around for centre to look airy and cheery and parents may mistake that for good quality service. for good quality service. I think it would be very good to see a lot of child care associated with schools systems. Can you believe still talking about the holes in child care? Oh, shocking to me given of money we're now spending that we're so dissatisfied with child care. We keep being told we're in a post feminist era. What is post there's a thing which I got from the YWCA a few years ago which said that feminism is the idea that are human beings. I do hope we haven't moved Passion concept.- past that But in terms of where we're at, it's - things go in waves. It intrigues me that young women who don't want to use that F word will nevertheless be prepared to say, "We've prepared to say, "We've got to do something about getting decent child care. We've do something about the gender pay gap." Yes, they want have decent super. Now, have decent super. Now, these are all some of the issues we've been years, it's about badge it, I think. Quite obviously with something like paid maternity leave the big shock for most young women is the discover ry that you the discover ry that you don't have it. What do you wish for your daughters and daughters? Well, I - you daughters? Well, I - you must understand that my daulth verse sharply cautioned me about - daughters have sharply cautioned me about referring to them as young women since the oldest is 51! So I've done oldest is 51! So I've done my best I think in trying to help them all achieve some them all achieve some degree of satisfaction in careers and life. And I'm sincerely that my one granddaughter and my two grandsons will also achieve, you achieve, you know, personal satisfaction in meeting their goals and that they will be

decent human beings. And that's the program for another week. I will be back at the same time next week. finish, a celebration of the horses of Canberra. Goodbye.

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