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(generated from captions) Thanks, Graham. Tonight's top

stories - the US vice presidential hopefuls have presidential hopefuls have gone

head to head in their only

debate of the campaign. Wall

Street has led a dive in world

markets over fears the revised

US bail-out bill will be

rejected by the house of

representatives and the

scramble has begun for a share

of the $20 billion of Federal

money earmarked for State

infrastructure projects. That's

ABC News for this Friday. Stay

with us now for Stateline with

Quentin Dempster. Quentin Dempster. Goodnight. Closed Captions by CSI

This week, there's a lot

riding on Ryde. If this seat

falls, the Government falls.

Yeah, thanks for that,

Quentin. Also 90 years on, they

keep coming back for more of

'The Magic Pudding'. I think

it's something Norman would be

rather proud

rather proud of. And how green

is my Polly? Welcome to

Stateline NSW. I'm Quentin

Dempster. Although the next

State election's not until

March 26, 2011, that's 13

months away, at least one of

the four by-elections schedule

med for two weeks time is

developing as a crucial

political indicator. If the

Labor Party loses the seat Labor Party loses the seat of

Ryde on Saturday 18 October t

could be the start of a

momentum for a change of

Government in NSW. Both the

Liberal and Labor Parties have endorsed bright young

professionals as candidates in

this seat. Nicole Campbell,

equipped with a science degree

for Labor, and Victor

Dominello, equip would a law

degree, for the Liberals. Labor

holds Ryde with a 10% margin, a

member John margin built up by the local

member John Watkins, the recently departed Deputy

Premier. Ryde was one of a swag

of middle class Sydney suburban

seats Labor took from the

Liberals under Bob Carr's

premiership. Under by-election

conditions with State Labor on

the nose in the polls, Ryde is

vulnerable. Voters may be

This waiting for baseball bats.

This is prime pristine parkland

and the idea of having a V8 car

race in an environmentally

sustainable showcase area is

totally opposed to those

principles. Save Olympic

park. No V8 race. Would you

believe this is the third most

watched sport in Australia

behind AFL and cricket? behind AFL and cricket? Today

starts a new era of actively

chasing big events for Sydney,

big events for NSW. And just

coincidently perhaps, big

events for Channel Seven as

well, Mr Premier. In spite of

dire warnings about credit

watch and a debt blow-out with

public transport infrastructure

Nathan Rees projects facing the Budget axe,

Nathan Rees is prepared to do

pump priming, the Government

will stump up to $90 million to

stage the Sydney 400 V8 annual

car race at Olympic park,

Homebush Bay. The series would

contribute more than $100

million to the State's economy,

draw 15,000 visitors, create

110 full-time equivalent 110 full-time equivalent jobs,

apprenticeship and trainee

project. This is going to be a

high octane, low impact event

which will put Sydney front and

centre on the international

event stage. Many locals are

outraged. Shame, Nathan Rees.

Auburn council passed a motion

on August 6, all of the council

passed a motion opposing the

race. Parramatta council has opposed the opposed the race and Ryde

council has passed a motion

opposing the race. Ryde

council is among many authorities opposed to the use

of Olympic park for a globally

televised car race so whilst

Nathan Rees gets the vote from

Channel Seven, he may not get

the vote from the voters of

Ryde. This may be symbolic for

problematic. There are problematic. There are four

by-elections schedule med for

October 18 in just two weeks

time, which will test the mood

of voters about Nathan Rees and

the standing of the State Labor

Party. They're in Port

Macquarie, recently vacated by

Rob Oakeshot who's gone

Federal, Lakemba, Mem's old

seat and Reba Meagher's seat

and the seat of Ryde vacated by

Deputy Premier John Watkins.

The Ryde by-election has thrown

two young political wannabes

into the fray for the major

parties. I'm going out and

talking to people about

improving services for this

community, better education,

better health services, better

infrastructure. Won't they public transport

say, "That's all very well but

you've had 13 years."? As I

said, I'm the candidate for

this by-election so I haven't

had 13 years but I certainly

see myself as part of the

renewal. John Watkins was a

good local member. He worked

hard for the community, there's

no doubt about that, but I

don't blame him for being frustrate would the Government

he's been saddled with for the

last 10 years. Nicole Campbell

for the Labor Party is for the Labor Party is

currently a policy adviser to Aboriginal affairs Minister

Paul Lynch, she's a qualified

environmental manager, having

worked for 8 years with the

Olympic park authority. Ms

Campbell was recently

re-elected to Ryde city council

scoring a 10% vote increase

against a negative State trend.

decision She dissented from her party's

decision to reinstate the V8

Supercars. My position is well

known. I was not in favour of

that event being at Sydney

Olympic park. That decision's

been taken but I'll continue to

reflect the views of this

community that there is more

appropriate locations. Does

the Premier know where you

stand? Yes, the Premier and I

have - I've put my views to the

Premier and he's

Premier and he's put his? The

Liberals Victor Dominello is a

former Ryde councillor whose

family has lived and works in

the area since the 19 30s. He's

a lawyer and also disagrees

with the V8 Supercar decision

for nearby Homebush Bay. I

think the decision to move the

V8s to Homebush Bay is just

crazy and, look, as I'm meeting

people on the streets and

door-knocking, I'm

door-knocking recently in

Eastwood and you wouldn't have

thought the people of Eastwood

would really be concerned about

Homebush Bay and the decision

to move it to Homebush Bay but

they are and I think what

they're angry about is the

Government, the Labor

Government is spending $30

million to do this exercise.

They would much rather see that

$30 million put into Ryde

hospital or put into the public

schools or trying to fix up the

transport system. It's just

another example of

mismanagement and waste by the

Labor Government. Ryde is the

most crucial of the coming

by-elections. Lakemba and

Cabramatta are the two safest

Labor seats in the State but

with a narrower margin and ut

Awithout the popular John

Watkins as the local member,

Ryde is developing as a litmus

test of the mood of voters and test of the mood of voters and

their attitude towards Labor in

power. What has destroyed or

undermined the Government's

credibility? I think that

there has been perhaps too much

focus on spin and I think

that's the refreshing thing

about Nathan's leadership and

Carmel's leadership. He's

looking for tangible outcomes,

things you can touch, see,

feel. I certainly share that

view. I the kind of person that

likes to get things done and at Local Government I work very

hard for this community. That's

the kind of representation and

focus I'd have for this community in the State

Parliament. Ryde is a lower

north shore electorate between

the Parramatta and Lane Cove

rivers taking in Meadowbank,

Denistone, Eastwood and Marsfield. It's well

established suburbia, pre-Dom

laptly Anglo with 10% Chinese,

5% Korean and 2% Vietnamese.

Remember the seat makes up more

than half of the seat of

Bennelong, famously taken from

John Howard last November.

Nicole Campbell who it is said

to in Bennelong before for

Labor stepped aside for Maxine

McKew. On Antony Green's

electoral pendulum, the Labor

vote in Ryde has a 10.1% margin

to lose. With the Labor

Government on the nose, some Government on the nose, some

Labor insiders fear there's a

15% swing, possibly more,

running against the party at

the moment. If so, Ryde would

certainly be lost. And if the

anti-Labor mood prevails for

the next State election, all

these marginal seats, 10% and

below, about 20 all up, would

go. The Labor Party in NSW

would be dead meat, the

Government would fall. Government would fall. If this

seat falls, the Government

falls. Yeah, thanks for that,

Quentin. Look, I take nothing

for granted. I've got Mount

Everest in front of me

There's a lot riding on Ryde.

Yes, that's right. Ryde is

important. Obviously to the

people of Ryde because they can

send a message to the Labor

Government but the people of

Ryde with in this privileged position in position in one way because

they can represent a voice for

the people of NSW and say to

Labor, "We're not going to give

you a pat on the back for the

management incompetence that

you've served up for the last

13 years," so this is a very

important election in that

sense. Nicole Campbell and

Victor Dominello both see public transport and the

traffic gridlock the electorate

suffers as the major local

issue. I don't lev around

here, sorry. Hi, I'm Victor

Dominello. Sorry. The train's

about to go. The train's about

to go. There are always

unreliable so when ne'er here

they have to catch them. I

don't blame them for

running. What about other

things confronting NSW like the

north-west metro public

transport, the things that's

people consistently complain

about with this State

Government is that they are not

delivering fast enough,

adequately enough, with

infrastructure support

services. Well, I mean, I'm a

local commuter. I catch the

train from Meadowbank every day

and like local commuters, I nt

to make sure our rail services

are maintained and improved

into the future, I want better schools. Aren't schools. Aren't you outraged at the Government's

performance? No, I'm not, but

I think we need to do

better. There are three other

candidates running in Ryde,

independent Victor Taffa,

Lindsay Peters for the Greens,

pictured here, and Peter

Goldfinch for the Democrats.

The gooens aren't formally

preferencing Labor in the Ryde

by-election which may leave

that party no lifeline to help

it across the line. The good

people of Ryde with being asked

by the Opposition to send a

message to Labor in Government,

a message is coming, we're

about to see just how loudly it

is delivered. How green is my Polly? With climate change now

a global and domestic issue,

Stateline's observed a change

in the State policy debate this

week. Opposition Leader Barry

O'Farrell released a new

climate change policy commitment for

commitment for a household

solar power feed-in tariff

scheme already operating in

Europe as part of renewable energy enhancements. Household

and businesses would be paid

for the solar electricity they

generate and feed back in to

the State grid. The Opposition

has accuse ed the Rees

Government of being the last

State Government in the country

to move on the renewable buyback arrangement and Andrew Fraser is Fraser is now pushing for land

owners to be included in the

Garnaut carbon trading scheme. Both the Government and

Opposition have what they call

climate change ministries now

to acknowledge the importance

of the issue but after the

electricity privatisation

debate, there are other big questions about what State

Governments can do to help save Governments can do to help save

the planet. Monitoring this

policy debate is John Connor,

chief executive of the Sydney

based Climate Institute. John

Connor, welcome to Stateline.

Feed-in tariffs are

interesting. How much could a

household with solar panels on

the roof make to recover the

cost of the investment? It

would depend on the scheme.

There are net schemes where There are net schemes where you

only pay for the amount you put

in or gross where you pay for

the outputs. Could be hundreds

of dollars per year. It

depends on your own usage and

your own conservation and

anything left over goes into to

the grid? That's right. It's

that amount that you put in

that's then shared across the

grid in terms of the costs and

so it's a question about good

policy here, do you actually

encourage solar thermal?

Bigger solar installations, other clean energy sources or

have a focus on energy

efficiency as well? There's a

good range of questions for

State Governments. We're

supposed to be driving carbon

emissions down, is it the most

efficient way? It's a

potential way, particularly for

developing a solar industry

which can be a good thing but

it's not necessarily the most

cost effective way of getting

the bigger abatement we need.

That's where we need to have

energy investment, the cheapest

power plant is the one you

don't have to build and other

policies that bring on clean

energy alternatives. Why

hasn't Professor Garnaut

included land owners, the farm

sector, in carbon trading?

Arguably carbon sequestration

in the soil is as big a factor in saving in saving the planet as moving

to renewable energy. It's a

very promising technology

capturing carbon in the soil.

It's still got to get over a

couple of scientific hurdles

including agriculture in the

Emissions Trading Scheme now

would add another 10,000 or so

firms or farmers in to the

scheme where currently it's

about 1,000 so there's a

question of complexity

there. So what? If they see there. So what? If they see

the price of carbon, they'll

say, "We want a bit of that.

We're carbon farmers

ourselves." The reason

Australia didn't sign on -

there is a clause in the Kyoto

agreement around that which the

US has signed on to, there is

some concern about the ability

for the carbon to stay in the soil, particularly in drought

conditions. We think we can

work through the issue but it

needs more focus and attention. needs more focus and attention.

What's great is to hear the

Nats talking about a positive

way to engage with this

problem. We've got Malcolm

Turnbull Federally and Pru

Goward and Barry O'Farrell, how

green are these people? This

is exciting. This is about

modern Conservativetism. We're

seeing Conservatives overseas

in Germany, the UK and

California all recognising this is

is an actual way relevant to

the future and an important

thing to see develop in the

Australian body politic.

You're happy about Garnaut's

regime. I you think it's a harder start rather than a soft

start with the targets he's

imposed. NSW owns the

electricity industry here

still. It hasn't been

off-loaded yet, off-loaded yet, despite the

efforts of the Government.

Should NSW wind down, at its

great cost, the ownership and

the dividend we get from that

industry? No, I think there

can actually be dividends

ongoing. I think the important

thing here is the Owen inquiry

actually took place before the

last election and the landscape

has changed with the Emissions

Trading Scheme, with a

commitment to a 20% renewable energy target and energy target and a commitment

for Australia to be at the

forefront of the developed

world in energy efficiency.

Tement we lag significantly in

that. There is an important

triple of policies there.

What's important for NSW is now

it's stayed in the public

hands. We don't sweat the

assets longer than we should,

we should not extend timelines we should not extend timelines

for running down and

aloinvestments to come in in

renewable and gas which can

take up the slack. Treasury is

preparing a mini Budget and the

ratings agencies are saying you

have make provision for coal

fired power to keep the light

on by 2014 which is what

Professor Owen says. What is

your advice to Treasury to get the tick from the Climate Institute? I Institute? I think there is a

bonus on this for Treasury now

we have the chill hand of

Michael Costa off the rein.

They can look at energy

efficiency and renewable energy

target. In our view there's no

need for coal-fired power stations. So you dispute Owen?

I think we can extend his

time line. We've had

independent modelling work on this

this for us from very respected

energy modellers utit's not for

the NSW Government and even in

the new arrangements, they are

allowing private investment in

this area. What the NSW

Government should focus on is

cleaning up the grid which is

early 20th century technology,

allowing others to come in, particularly distributed

generation and smaller

co-generation plants in the cities cities and other forms of

cleaner energy coming in,

invest in public transport.

That's whether where we need to make the investment. You'll

blow the AAA. I think these

are the ways we attract

investment into NSW and put us

on the path to a low carbon

economy. I'm very pleased that

in the proposed climate change

action plan that the Government

is looking at here, one of the

three objectives is having

prosperity in a low carbon

economy. It's that kind of

thinking that will see us into

the future. Do you believe the

rhetoric? Aren't you looking

for action? This seems too

slow. Now is the time. The NSW

Government needs to back

ambitious targets. The real

judgment day is in December

when the Commonwealth

Government comes up with the

targets and it's the stronger targets in Professor Garnaut's review which is important and

going to help Australia be a

positive player in the global

talks. NSW and other State Governments have been talk

about having a soft start and

going meekly in to this. The

time for that is over. It's

important they're strongly

supporting ambitious targets,

bearing in mind Australia and

NSW amongst that, is amongst

the countries most at risk from

claping. We will have water

claping. We will have water

shortages, bushfire and other

impacts. John Connor, thanks

very much. It might be just a

kids' story but 'The Magic

Pudding' that keeps growing

back no matter how much you

take from it has an added

flavour these days. With with

exquisite timing, the 90th

anniversary of the publication

of Norman Lindsay's modern children's classic is children's classic is being

celebrate would a special

edition out this week. What

makes it special? Think Wall

Street, think greed, think it

would go on forever, think

climate change, think

consumption of all that fuel,

same idea yet none is a magic

pudding, yet they may have been

following the script as the

pudding thieves. Maybe that's

what Norman Lindsay had in mind

all those years

all those years ago. Geoff Sims

reports. It's not a bad record

- 'The Magic Pudding' has never

been out of front in 90 years,

which means it's now matched

the life span of its creator ,

Norman Lindsay, who died in

1969. The book has had many

translations and many reprints.

I have no idea how many. I have no idea how many.

Millions. But I can give you an

idea of the languages. French,

German, Spanish, Portuguese,

Japanese and last year Korean.

Gotcha. 'The Magic Pudding'

has also been subject to

various interpretations. It's

not self-service. But the book

itself stands the test of time, though the concept

though the concept of a pudding

with legs may sometimes lose a

little in translation. What

they make of Albert the pudding

I don't know but certainly the

illustrations I think instantly

identify it as Australian and

that's its appeal. An

academic, Peter Kirkpatrick

wrote of Bohemian Sydney and

hails Lindsay's pudding. I think 'The Magic Pudding' is

one of the quintessential Australian

Australian kids' books, not

least because it uses so very

imaginatively native Australian

animals of course but also

interfuses that with a human

narrative, ultimately involving

justice. That's rough justice

sometimes, perhaps not PC these

days, but they're still getting

away with it. Here's the pudding

pudding owners and they're

always in great trouble because

those pudding thieves come up,

a bit of biffo. Helen Glad has

been touting her grandfather's

magic pudding pretty mup all

her life. Onions, bunions,

corns and to say

happy 90th to the pudding, out

comes a new edition. I think

it's something Norman would be

rather proud of because it

reflects the first editions,

similar size and shape and also

the illustrations have been

rescanned so they're much

clearer and it's new design.

There's an added short

biography of both Norman and

the pudding and even some

pudding recipes. But why is

the story, like the pudding

itself, so enduring?

Apparently ever lasting? First

of all the illustrations. They

are wonderful depictions of

Australia's animals doing

things that animals don't do

but they still look like

animals. That's number one. And

it's a story of adventure,

greed, which is very Australian

in some ways. Very

international as well, very

always, very now. The magic of

course that the more you eat

the more you get and Albert is

his proper name. 'The Magic

Pudding' was just one part of

Norman Lindsay's incredible

output. His devotion to the

female body was far more

significant in terms of his

artistry. I think a beautiful

body of a beautiful woman is

the most beautiful thing on

this earth. And even though the

model more often than not was

his wife rose and the style no

more erotic than renaissance

art, Lindsay was a favourite

target of the ultra

Conservatives but his art and

his magic pudding live on. The

man was as wholesome as an egg

and the best work of art he

ever did opinion was his great

book for kids, 'The Magic

Pudding'. There he would create

the great and say most profound

of all Australian myths, deeper

than Kelly, deeper than Anzac.

Oh, well, he is an art critic.

The image of the cut and come

again pudding that always grows

again no matter how many slices

you take off it. That's the

magic of it, said barnacle

Bill. The more you eat the more

you get. Me and Sam have been

eating away at this pudding for

years and there's not a mark

left on it. I think Robert

Hughes was the first to observe

that the pudding is almost a

perfect model for the way white

Australians have treated their

landscape and resources over

the time of settle: They keep

coming back and taking away and

it will regenerate and still

always be there. There's a

powerful metaphor there. By

the way, the name's Albert

thank you very much. Now shut

up and eat me. The term magic

pudding is now part of the

landscape. You wonder what

people would do without it.

It's used every Budget day,

"The economy is not a magic

pudding." It's another dip

into the magic pudding. It is

regarded as a magic pudding.

Norman Lindsay, Mr Speaker, in

his book 'The Magic Pudding',

cut and come again. They were

not the first to use it, they

won't be the last. To quote the

book that came about for a bet

between Lindsay and his friend

Bert Stevens. Lindsay said

children were more interested

in food than fairies and they

were going to each write

stories to prove the fact one

way or the other but Stevens

never wrote his story, Lindy

did and the rest is history. I

took a scribbling pen and

started to jot down stuff and

things started to come

along. Food interested Lindsay

but he left it to his wife Rose

to prepare it. Norman Lindsay,

as it turns out, wasn't really

in to cooking. He had far too

much on his plate, too many

things to do, so when he did

spend time here alone, he had a fairly

fairly Parton -- a fair ly

spartan diet. The idea of the never-ending pudding was possibly wishful thinking but

he gave Albert the pudding real

character. He's very rude and

very grumpy and he gets away

with all sorts of things that

little boys like to get away

with, which is particularly the

rudeness. Little girls too, at

least when the animated film

came out in 2000. It was

really funny and I liked it

'cause he was really cheeky and

rude. That would have been

done about 1956.: To Helen

Glad, her grandfather was

anything but that and his Blue

Mountains retreat was a

playground for kids and adults


I used to draw and I used to

dress up the statue behind us

with an artist's drape, I fell

in the fountain. You grew up

with naked ladies avenue

where? Avenue where. They're

still here solid as rock, like

the magic pudding itself 90

years on, the way Norman

Lindsay might have expected.

I've had a very touching belief

in whatever he did was going to

work out well and the pudding

was just another one. I

certainly hope we'll keep

cutting from it and coming away

again and it will be for when

we go back, just as it was

first time round. It's magic.

Thanks, Geoff. That's Stateline

for this week. Don't forget the

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