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Whitney Fitzsimmons. Tonight - promising

promising a return to growth,

Myer tries to reassure

investors still hurting from

the retailer's float. We are

seeing a gradual return to

normal retail demand and a

heyday of what retail will be

once again. Too much of a good

thing - inflation fears prompt

calls to slow the Chinese

economy Further tightening will

come through in China. I think

at the end of the day all the

authorities are trying to do is

contain growth, stopping it

getting out of control. Telstra

fairs in favour as politicians

prepare to vote on the

country's future. If the

Government considers Telstra to

be a mere monopoly and wants to

break it up, where is the

commercial or constitutional or

the legal benefit with

replacing it with another

monopoly. replacing it with another

First to the markets, the All

Ords dipped after more than a

week of gains, the ASX 200 lost

ground in Japan the Nikkei rose

by nearly 1%, Hong Kong's Hang

Seng lost 74 points, and in

London the FTSE fell in early

trade. Shortly we'll cross to London. trade. Shortly we'll cross to

China stepped out of the

shadows of the global financial

crisis but faces a new

challenge, it released a robust

set of economic figures,

including a boost to retail

spending, the threat of rising

inflation has officials

concerned. Desley Coleman

reports. A great raft of

economic data has been released

by China. And the figures are

impressive for Australia's

biggest trading partner. The

strength of the Chinese economy

is great news for Australia, it

means ongoing demand for

Australian raw

materials. Factory output

expanded at its fastest pace in

5 gleers up 21%, it's a double

- it's a double edged sword,

inflation at the factory gate

climbing 5.4%, consumer

inflation surges to a high, CPI

2.7% higher than a year ago.

Retail sales growth of the

19.4% is seen in a positive light. Domestic demand is firm

in China, it's a little bit of

a myth that China is export

driven. It's the world's

strongest rate of growth in retail sales for a major

country, it seems as if the

consumer in China is alive and

well, picking up pace. The

pace and the quickening

inflation rate puts the

Government under pressure to

lift interest rates. For the

first time since December

2007. Probably in the next

little while or so we'll see a

move to raise interest rates in

China, the bottom line from the

numbers is that we'll see

further tightening coming

through in China, but I think

at the end of the day all the

authorities are trying to do is

contain growth, stop it getting

out of the control. Economic

news from China is going from

strength to strength, earlier

trade figures revealing exports

caught up with imports, both

growing by more than 40% in

February. The release of the

trade numbers followed premier

Wen Jiabao's speech at the

opening of a National Peoples

Congress, when he maintained

economic growth would hit

8%. Year after year the Chinese

Government comes out with an 8%

forecast. That's the forecast

National Peoples Congress for released arpted around the

the last five years, my feeling

is it's a minimum rate of

growth and for the last five

years it's come in above 8%,

including last year, when it

came in around 8.7%. My own

forecast is closer to 11%, I

think this point of the global

recovery cycle the starting

point for credible forecasts on

what will happen start at

10. The Chinese premier

promised to clampdown on

property speculation and

tighten up the superannuation

of bank lending as talk of

asset bubbles - tighten up the

supervise vision of bank

lending. I'm joined by David Tinsley of the National

Australia Bank. We heard

there'll be tightening of

monetary policy in China, what

is it doing to the markets. The

London market is down a little,

resource stocks are down more,

as your report coming into this

was suggest, we view this in a

bigger, which is an economy

growing at 10%, exports up 50%

on a year ago. 2.7% inflation

is modest. You'll see

tightening, monetary tightening

in China, it will be modest

over the course of this year.

We don't put too much store by

the scare stories, if you are a

big capitally intensive future

selling into the mark, you want

to see a long-term sustainable

expansion in China, not an over

the top boom, if you like.

Monetary policy, a tightening

of that is part of the solution

for China, not part of a

problem. There's no deal to

pull Greece out of its debt

crisis, is the uncertainty causing problems throughout causing problems

Europe. There's no explicit

deal on paper, noises from

European leaders, President

Sarkozy of France make it clear

that the Greeks aren't going to

be allowed to fail. They'll pay

their bills one way or another.

At the moment the market is

fairly content with that.

Really the Greek problem has

returned to really being a

domestic political problem,

big, general strike in Greece

today, about 2 million people

out on strike. It's become a

domestic political concern

again. The looming UK election

has the markets concerned. Why

is that. Well, really, because

the poll, the opinion polls

tightened considerably of late,

it points to a hung parliament

in the UK, which no party has

an outright majority to form a

Government of their own, the

United Kingdom has its own

fiscal woes, to cut spending,

raising taxes after the next

election, and worries about

hung parliament and narrow

opinion polls make the markets

concerned they won't be able to

do that. Recent employment data

out of the US showed it's

struggling, so what can we

expect to see from the January

trade balance figures due out

shortly. Not a great deal, to

be honest, as the US comes out

of recession we are likely to

see imports as firms restock, that means the trade deficit

may widen a bit in joint

enterprise, really in the North

Atlantic there's a lot of

January data confused any the

weather, various short cold

spells and snow on both sides

of the US and Europe. The data

is pretty confused at the

moment on that score, we'll

have to wait for a couple of

months to get a view of the

underlying picture. To the

other major movers on the

market. Atlas Iron surged 6%

after an announcement of a

merger with Aurox. Downer EDI

downgraded because of changes

faced by financial guarantors. Leighton

Leighton Holdings gained 1.5%

on news it had secured a $463

million contract, on the Hong

Kong Express Rail Link. And

iiNet was nearly half a per

cent higher after confirming

it's in discussions with

parties regarding a potential acquisition. On currency

markets - the Australian dollar

is stronger.

Gold slipped to its lowest

level in two weeks yesterday.

Telstra shares have rallied

again with the Senate paced to

block Government plans to

break-up the telco, Telstra

added 6% in two days, as debate

in the Senate continued shareholders are confident

their company will not have to

split operation and be able to

keep ownership of its network infrastructure, Andrew

Robertson reports. Telstra's

beleaguered shareholders have

this little to ring home about

in recent times, as politicians

began to debate the company's

fate Telstra shares added 5.5%

in two days. Liberal Senator Michael Ronaldson thinks he

knows why. The shares you are

up 7-8 cents today on big

turnover on the back of the potential for this legislation

to be defeated. That

legislation is the Government's

plan to block Telstra from

buying Next Generation mobile

phone spectrum if the company

doesn't separate its network

for retail operations. What we

have seen here is a slow motion

train reck from Senator Conroy

and his handling of the policy.

If the Government considers

Telstra to be a near monopoly

and wants to break it up. Where

is the commercial or

constitutional or the legal

benefit with replacing it with

another monopoly. While the

likelihood of Telstra remaining

intact buoyed sentiment.

Shareholder analyst Greg

Canavan believes there's more

to it than that. Fixed line

revenues are under pressure,

the Government will make money

and people will come to the realisation there's a strong

dividend yield, stock prices

are cheap and it's time to

buy. Dispoit the euphoria of

the last couple of days a look

at the last few months

highlights Telstra's struggled.

By contrast the ASX 200 is 49%

higher than last march. Greg

Canavan believes Telstra will

improve in the short to medium

term, only to about

$3.30. There's a lot of risk

around telestraw, regulatory

risk is the main, I don't think

they've gone away. We'll see

volatility in the weeks ahead.

There's fundamental value,

that's what investors are

starting to look at: The

change in sentiment towards

Telstra is closely watched by

its competitors, rival Internet

provider i-iiNet says a Senate

vote against plans to break-up

Telstra will be bad news for

the telco sector. We'll be

back into the same fight we've

had for 15 years about improved

competition in the telecommunications market in

the Australia. We have seen the

current regulatory regime fail

to deliver the public policy

that this Government and previous governments have been

pushing. If the Government's Telstra legislation has been

defeated companies like iiNet

will be able to move their business to the National Broadband Network, but Steve

Dalby said it won't be the best

solution. It will be important

to get the volume of traffic

that Telstra's business

generates on to the network as

well, to ensure that the

national infrastructure is competitive, cost effective and

not working at loggerheads

against a capper boiffed

network that Telstra owns and

operates. A Senate vote on

Telstra's future is expected

next week. Myer finally

delivered positive news for

disillusioned investors in the

retailers public float. First

half net profits up 38%, the

retailers expects to meet full

year earnings guidance, Myer

will pay a fully franked

interim dividend of 10.5 cents

per contrary, the shares are

below the listing price, I

speak with Bernie Brookes, a

short time ago. Welcome to

'Lateline Business'. Thank

you. Your sales for the period

were up 2%, but lower than

forecast in the prospectus,

what changed. We said at the

results announcement that sales

were below the prospectus

forecast of 3%, we had a

forecast of 3 and ended with a

2%, we circled a Government

stimulus, and customers that

performed an enormous amount at

Myer didn't have much money in

their pictures. It resulted in

a slight Dekker um. There's

been a profit performance

support to what was in the

prospectus. You revised

downwards sales for the full

years, is there a chance it

will drop further. We've been

prudent in providing a forecast

for the second half of the

year, there was a Government stimulus taking place in the

April, May, June period, we

traded up 4% in comp in the

last quarter, we are circling

big numbers in the last

quarter, we thought it was

prudent to provide an

assessment of where we think

sales will be. There's two

other factors contributing to

that. We don't have stores

until the first stores kick off

in the July at North Ryde and

November - October/November in

Robina, and we have the Myer

Melbourne store, six of the

stores are closed. Those are

big ticket items with an impact

on the sales. Bernie Brookes

the bright start was Myer

private labelled sales, they

were better than expected. Y We

worked hard with a lot of

exclusive tiners, Tony Matai

chess Ki, Wayne Cooper, Nicola

film ety and a number of designers developing Fusion

ranges and ranges of product

across women's and men's ware.

We have products such as

Basque, Blark, we spent time

making sure they are marketed

and they are as good if not

better than other brands, they

are sourced differently, we

have our own designer, we

invested in this area to make

sure the grand have a point of difference in the

marketplace. Is there a time

where we shift focus and

concentrate on the bask style

of labels and shift away from

designer types lake Wayne

coopers. It's a good question. One of the challenges

Department stores face, is

encouraging the sales of your

own exclusive product. Plus

making sure we do a good job on

brands such as astronautica and

Tommy Hill to make sure we look

after the brands whether it be

Apollo to premium brands. You

have to get a balance, that's

what the customers want. The

secret to our future ranging

and marketing of product is

making sure we are in line with

what the customers want, no

matter what category of the

store we are in. Given stimulus

spending is falling and

interest rates set to rise, how

confident are you that

strategies to increase sales

growth will work. We have to

get through the last five

months of strategy. We are

doing it with a large number of

initiatives, we have a program

running called blew sky where

we increased marketing to the

customer, we have more

aggressive product. At the end

of the 5-6 months, we get

Melbourne reopen, the new store

at Robina, and 10 stores after

that, that's when the sales

growth will kick in. Are you

concerned look the at the

retail sector, it's a

lacklustre forecast by a lot of

analysts. The real issue has

been the global financial

crisis and the last calendar

year. We are seeing a gradual

return to normal retail demand

and the heyday of what retail

will be once again. We have

gone through a period where

consumer confidence has been a

little wary, people have been concerned about the level of

debt, paying down the credit

cards, looking for a bargain,

we are seeing a degree of

change, the Consumer Confidence

Index rising, the interest rate

rises, most realise we are at

emergency levels of interest

rates, there's been a need to

move them up, it's well

broadcast and managed. For all

those reasons, we are rnal

confident that the consumer

confidence will graduate back.

This year will be good, future

years will be better as

consumer confidence returns to

pre-global financial crisis

levels. Will discounting play

a more integral part in the

business in the future. The

consumer now has been

reeducated, there's an astute

consumer, they delay purchases,

one of the reasons December was

stuff, we sold more gift cards

than before, and the customers

came out to purchase during

January. We have an astute

consumer, we need to respond to

that and have the right product

when te they need T we plan to

market and special through the

next year because that's what

our customers want. Customers

want a good service and range,

and make sure loyalty is based

on being able to come to Myer

during a stocktake sale and

sale and get a good price on

something, it's a combination

of all of those, we'll provide

it. How do you dread the fine

line between maintaining the

Myer brand integrity, and

finding benefits through

discounting. I think we have a

Myer 1 program. That gives us

the opportunity to target our discounting differently. It

doesn't mean we have to run 40%

off luggage for half price on a

dress. It means we can target

consumers with an offer

relevant to them. It's into

good us sending you a brochure

an children's ware if children

are grown up or offers on

women's ware if the house has

males. We have to make sure we

target the offers, although our

markdowns can be more in many cases they are targeted and

turn out to be less, it's about

being smart in retail as much

as giving things away with

discounting. You increased

margins by 90 basis points,

won't discounting squeeze those

margins. I think we have quite

a few plusses in record to the

reduction in shrinkage, we had

a reduction on improvement in margin coming out of the Myer

exclusive brands, better

overseas sourcing of product, a

number of plusses in margin and

we'll spend that to attract

customers, as proven with a 36

basis points in margin alone

we've been able to take in the

benefit. Spend some to attract

customers and continue to

manage it on a week by week

basis: the organisation has

been on a rapid refurbishment

plan which appears to pay off

in terms of growth, would it

not have been more prudent to

have waited for the IPO once

the facelift was finished. I

think it's a debate that you'll

get a lot of opinions on. The

reality is that we had no choice. The owners of the

business made the decision to

take toward the IPO through to past October last year. Going

forward, the original plan was

50 month turnaround, culminate

ing in November, which would

have seen the change in

ownership in the business, as

much as it's debatable as to

whether it's the right time to

go or wrong time. The reality

was there was no alternative,

owners of the company made the decision, we had to react accordingly. Brookes thank you

for joining 'Lateline

Business'. Thank you. The

competition watchdog criticised

Sydney Airport in its report on

airport performance, ACCC said Sydney Airport increased

profits at the expense of

customers by charging high

rates for an inferior service

and is concerned about the

monopoly of the airports it

monitors has con car parking,

shares in MAP Group fell more

than 1%. Australia's economic

recovery is on track despite

weaker than expected jobs data

last month, in February the

unemployment rate rose slightly

to 5.3% after jn's jobless

figures were revised down. Most

economists forecast the

creation of 15,000 jobs, with

the loss of 11,000 part-time

jobs, 400 new positions were

created. The number was less

than market expectations,

10-15,000, when you bear in mind where the numbers have

been, if this is a correction,

it's modest

correction. Economists say the

numbers indicate employers are

starting to move people back

from part-time to full-time

work. For some people the

Internet is about social

interaction, for others it's

been information, but for the

shrewed it's a place to make

money and lots of it. In the

last financial year, Australians spent around $100

billion buying goods and

services on the web,

increasingly that money is

ending back in the pockets of

well-focussed local business

people. Tracey Kirkland

reports. Pet lover Neil lock is

is young, entrepreneurial

banking on the Internet to make

his fortune, he's launched a

website where pet owners can

coordinate the care of their

animals. If I have that

running, coming up with a

solution for pet owners,

putting minds at ease and

provide me with a lifestyle

allowing me to live comfortable

and do something I enjoy,

that's the end result for

that's the end result for me. Michelle and Steve Kellett

understand the golts, their

online battery shop did so well it's their soul source of

income, they have gained a flexible lifestyle they

desired. I have a family, I can

take time off to see my

daughter's sports events or

school excursion s and help out

at school. Online sellers are

raping financial rewards as Australians become more confident transacting

online. Yes. Another sale,

Ruby. Sales of his eBook on

netball afford that father of

four the luxury of working from

home In my inbox I have a

notification say Luke, we put

more money in your bank

account. The Internet Industry

association says there's

millions, if not billions to be made on line, Australians are

leading the charge. In some

cases we saw teenagers in

Australia become multi-million

airs by developing new

applicationses for Facebook or

the iPhone. It's encouragement

to sports fan Daniel Roper who

has a real job but runs a

sports betting web site It

works while I'm at work or

asleep. I'll check it

intermittetly. It's not

uncommon to find out I made a

couple of hundred while I

slept. The odds are eventually

he won't have to get out of bed

until he wants to. Before we go

a look at what is making news

in the business sections of tomorrow's papers, 'The Herald

Sun' reports a rise in

unemployment figures is

unlikely to stop an interest

rate rise next month. The 'Australian Financial Review'

says the Federal Government is

ramping up scrutiny of

lobbyists. That's all for

tonight I leave you the FTSE is

trading lower at 0.43%, or 23

points and the Dow futures are

lower by 17 points, I'm Whitney

Fitzsimmons, thanks for watching, goodnight. Closed Captions by CSI

DRUMS BACKING SINGERS: # Going to a go-go

# Going to a... # Tonight's guest on Spectacle songwriter and record producer. is a peerless singer, than Bob Dylan In 1965, no less a lyricist America's greatest living poet. called him And I'm not gonna disagree. of the Motown label, During the glory years smash hits with The Miracles he not only recorded his own for Mary Wells... but he provided songs ..The Marvelettes, Marvin Gaye, Martha Reeves and The Vandellas, The Supremes, The Temptations and The Jackson Five. are you ready? Ladies and gentleman,

Are you ready? AUDIENCE ROARS AUDIENCE ROARS Are you ready for the man who brought you Shop Around, You've Really Got a Hold on Me, Mickey's Monkey, Ooh, Baby, Baby,

The Tracks of My Tears and I Second That Emotion. Get ready! Whoo! Get ready! I said, g-g-get ready! Welcome to the stage, Mr Smokey Robinson! AUDIENCE ROARS AUDIENCE CHEERS AND WHISTLES

WILD APPLAUSE THEME MUSIC

(LAUGHS) Oh, that was fun. I got...I'm not...I'm not that... I gotta say, Before we start the conversation, and Groucho Marx if Frank Sinatra and Marilyn Monroe in this moment, had walked out together than if you come out... I couldn't be more thrilled APPLAUSE it starts the conversation It's funny, in 1964, you wrote a song called

Turned Upside Down My Smile is Just a Frown for Carolyn Crawford

knows from Tears of a Clown - and it had the lines that everybody I have to keep my sadness hid" "Just like Pagliacci did, a lot of your songs, this... and it's an image that runs through with sadness. ..keeping that smiling face song, uh, it was... Well, for the Carolyn Crawford how you're hiding, like I said. I was trying to just explain You know, you're trying to pretend

that really isn't, like something's going on inside you because you don't wanna expose yourself to the crowd. For the 'Tears of a Clown' song, Stevie Wonder, of course, wrote the music for that and he had recorded that track. The track that's on that record to me. was already done when he brought it

Somebody told me it was a Christmas present for you. Is that true? No, no, no, no. It was not a Christmas present. It was at a Christmas party. Oh, a Christmas party. I was gonna say, I've always wondered who Santa Claus was. And I thought, maybe it was Stevie. Exactly! He was that time. It would be very difficult to think of what to get him next year. But we were having our annual Motown Christmas party and, um, so he came and he had that track.

And he said that he had been trying to come up with a song for it but he couldn't so he wanted me to see what I could come up with. And it has that little thing in it that's the circus to me - (SINGS TUNE) That's the circus. So I just wanted to write something that I thought was...heart-wrenching about the circus. Rather than talking about lions and tigers and blah, blah, blah. I wanted to write something that I felt like could touch people's inners. And Pagliacci was the clown who made everybody happy. All the kids, all the grown-ups, everybody, he made them happy. And then he went back to his dressing room and he was very sad 'cause he didn't have a woman. So he had nobody to love him. So that's what that song is really, basically about. The image of keeping that face of happiness with heartbreak inside

is something you've returned to a number of times. It seems to have been a powerful image for you. Somehow it was. I don't know why.

I said to the audience before,

I reminded them that we were in the Apollo Theatre, the world-famous Apollo Theatre. APPLAUSE I did actually play the Apollo once but it was the Apollo in Glasgow and it's, actually, the Apollo in Glasgow has a fearsome reputation for being the burial ground of many an English comedian. You go up to Scotland and they don't wanna laugh at your jokes. If you come up from England and sing songs you're lucky if you get out alive or you did, when that was open. And I know that this theatre has a tough reputation of the crowd as - Yeah, the Apollo right here, this Apollo has... ..the same reputation. ..of being a burial ground if you're not ready. And I think that, um, it's just a fact that the people in New York and especially here in Harlem

have been so used to seeing the best of the best. I mean, so many wonderful black entertainers started right here at the Apollo. I mean, Ella Fitzgerald won... APPLAUSE ..the talent contest here. You know, and everybody has come through here. The first time The Miracles and I ever came in here there was a mural on the wall, they still have pieces of it out there today. And there was a mural on the wall, It had all these wonderful people, all these wonderful entertainers. Some of them were here before I was born. And they were on this mural and I was saying to The Miracles, "Man, one of these days, I wanna be on this wall." And the first time we played here at the Apollo theatre - this was prior to Motown happening and Berry Gordy was our manager - Um, we were so terrible until - LAUGHTER no, this is true - we were so terrible until Mr Shiffman, and he called Berry to come here and play, and we weren't making any money trying to survive, we were all the way in New York, had never been out of Detroit. you know, from Detroit, the second day And he called Berry after his money back. and told him he wanted but we learned a lesson. So it's a learning ground

go home and hone our craft And we learned that we had to and BE at the Apollo. and learn HOW to come to Going to a Go-Go. We brought you out and Mickey's Monkey And along with Shop Around

you had a lot of great up-tempo songs with the ballads but I'd say most people associate you so was it tougher as a novice to come out and command that audience with a quiet song because you're even more vulnerable. Well, it was for me, because the first song that we had that even was a hit enough for us to come to New York was a song called Bad Girl which is a ballad. And so we came out and we sang Bad Girl and when you come to the Apollo Theatre, you have to have big band arrangements that played here. because there was a big band here the week that we played. Ray Charles' band was playing Just so happens that his band - that was normally here - rather than the Reuben Phillips band playing for that week. was the Ray Charles band arrangements, And so you had to have big band so we're just coming from Detroit - like I said, there was no Motown - and I'm sure at that time, and we didn't know that, Berry didn't know that at 7:30 in the morning... so we come in and the rehearsal's LAUGHTER ..on opening day. you have rehearsal. Downstairs in the basement it's our turn to rehearse. So we go down to the rehearsal, with these chord sheets So we come out

and there was a guy named Honey Coles who used to be the manager here at the Apollo Theatre... APPLAUSE Yeah, Honey Coles. Honey Coles hit the ceiling. He starts cussing, he starts going all over raising... "These kids come here from Detroit don't even have arrangements..." "Didn't Berry know they should have arrangements..." LAUGHTER He's having a fit. I don't know why - I guess it was God's will - the rehearsal that morning. but Ray Charles comes to know your song?" He said, "Any of you kids I said, "Ye-ye-ye LAUGHTER "Yes, Mr Charles" the p-p-piano." I can pl-pl-play it on LAUGHTER the piano." He said, "OK, come over to on the piano stool. He sat down beside me "Play the song and sing it." He said, and I'm singing, So I started playing it # She's not a bad girl because...# Rays says, "OK, I'll play it." I sang one verse. He starts playing it like he wrote it. I mean, no, really. APPLAUSE He starts playing like he wrote it. Incredible! So I'm sitting there and I'm really marvelling at his genius now. 'Cause he never heard this song. You know, he starts playing it. I'm glad HE's playing it

'cause he's playing it 20-times better than I play it! And as he's playing it,

I want you to write this down." he's saying, "OK, saxophones - So they wrote that down. (SINGS TUNE) to play..." (SINGS TUNE) "OK, trumpets. I want you Right here, they wrote that down. And they wrote that down. "OK, guitar player, I want you..." and we were singing two songs - So this man sat there Dictated the arrangements And dictated the arrangements. right there that morning FOR us, so we could have arrangements and his band wrote it down so we could be on this show. so they could play, sitting there that day. And he wrote TWO arrangements I could've been in Timbuktu. From that moment on, With one day off. And they said, "Hey, Smokey,

Ray Charles needs you to do something in New York." And I would've flown in from Timbuktu to come to do that for Ray and gone back. APPLAUSE Incredible. # Like a storm more tears have rained # 'Cause your shirt was lipstick stained # The stain that it contained was not my colour # No sponge has the power # To absorb the shower couldn't cover # Of tears, pancake and powder # But today as I look in the mirror # I see things a whole lot clearer # No more tearstained make-up for me # Oh no, no more tearstained make-up # I say, no tearstained make-up

# I finally got myself together # No more tearstained make-up for me # Ohh-hooo # No more tearstained make-up for me # I finally got myself together. # APPLAUSE Smokey, I was gonna ask you - so singular, your voice is so exceptional, when did you discover it that you started to sing like or was there a singer you loved, and this voice came out? to sing like anybody but, uh, I don't know that I ever started I hear people who are singers you know, that same question. and they are asked I'm just myself." They say, "Well, nobody. LAUGHTER That's a lie. by somebody, I think that any singer is inspired OK, so when I was a kid growing up, I already said Ray Charles but I think my No.1 singing idol - the Apollo Theatre - who was the man here at APPLAUSE was Jackie Wilson. I had this high voice, you know, with high voices - so I always loved the guys Clyde Mcfadder, Frankie Lymon... Jackie Wilson, Sam Cooke,

the first person that I ever saw, In fact, I think Frankie Lymon was called the Broadway Capitol there was this theatre in Detroit in those days and when live shows came to Detroit they played at the Broadway Capitol. So I'm probably about 10 or 11 and Frankie Lymon and The Teenagers, Why Do Fools Fall in Love, they have this song, and they come to Broadway Capitol in Detroit and I go and I see them. Frankie Lymon must have been no more than 12 or 13 at the time himself. So that was the first time I ever saw anybody, 'cause I always wanted to be in show business, from the time I was a little boy, three, four - And seeing somebody just a bit little older... It was the first time I saw somebody that made me think, "Oh, man,

this dream is possible." So, yeah, I loved those guys. One of your big solo hits, Cruisin', which was a hit, I think, in '79, was revived by D'Angelo and it was quite a radically different...that was...did you... Were you suprised when you heard the interpretation?

his interpretation. I was suprised when I heard and I know his family I know D'Angelo, you know, and in fact I did a TV show with him where I sang Cruisin' with him

but I'm delighted, man. where people say See, I'm not one of those writers "Well they sampled my song!" Sample all of mine, PLEASE.