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(generated from captions) end of the year will come true

this time. It does look cold.

Now a plan to ban tourists from

climbing Uluru is under doubt

following input from the

tourism industry. A Senate

committee has heard changes

were made to a plan for Uluru

after submissions from tour

operators. For more, the

Opposition's tourism spokesman

Stephen choB o joins us from

Canberra. This was something

beginning so it's a you objected to from the

beginning so it's a bit of a

victory, is it? The Opposition

made it clear we did not want

to send a message around the

world that Australia's red

centre was closed for business.

We felt strongly what needed to

happen was clear consultation

with the tourism industry. It

is after all the biggest

employer in the main industry

in the Northern Territory and

of course in the red centre. It

creates thousands of jobs and

we don't need to send we don't need to send a message

around the world unnecessarily

that we're closed for

tourism. The rock is sacred to

the local people, they're happy

for you to visit and take

pictures, they just don't want

you on the rock. Would there really have been so much loss

by discouraging the climbing on

the rock, given some people

urinate and defecate while up

disagreeing with there? Dwron think anyone is

disagreeing with the points you

make. It was never Coalition

policy to stop being being

discouraged to climb the

roning. You don't mind people

being discouraged to climb the

rock? That's OK? Yes, I think

people are culturally

sensitive. Not only do I think

that, the reality is that is

the case. We know roughly 15%

of people who visit Uluru take

the decision to climb the rock, the decision to climb the rock,

the balance don't. This was our

point, was that largely it

choice for the visitors. should remain a matter of

There's even a bit of divided

opinion within the Indigenous

community themselves. That not

withstanding we've certainly

facilitated, both in Government

and Opposition, moves for

people to not climb the rock by

providing additional tourism

infrastructure around the rock

and that's a positive. We are

talk about one of Australia's

key iconic tourism attractions

and the reality is had the rock

climb been closed it would have

sent a message around the world

that to visit the red centre of

Australia was a waste of time.

That was our real primary

concern and I think common

sense has prevailed. Clearly

there's been a great deal of there's been a great deal of

lobbying from tourism operators. Have you had much

discussion with them and input

with them and encouragement of

them to lobby? Is I have been

talking to a number of the peak

industry bodies in the tourism

industry. Groups like the Australian Tourism Export

Council, like TTF and other

operators in the red centre

have held a view and opinion

was divided, I'm not going to

say it wasn't. I think all

Australians would recognise Australians would recognise that. Ultimately common sense

has prevailed. The key for

Australia's struggling tourism

industry is we should be really

careful we're not shutting down

tourism experiences when we're

not creating anything new and

this is the biggest problem

I've got. The current

Government seems to be like a

cork on the ocean, just bobbing

around subject to the whims of

what's happening with inter

national tourism and I think we

need to make it year we are

serious about the export serious about the export

potential from tourism and we

shouldn't just shut down one attraction and not provide

anything else in its

place. Steven Ciobo, you're a

political realist and you'd

surely know that given duted

Dutton, your colleague and the

Federal MP in the seat of

Dickson, announced he wouldn't

contest the seat because the

redrawing of the boundaries had made it notionally Labor and

look now he's decided the figures

look better for him he'll stand

and recontest it, you know he's

starting from a real handicap

now, having told the people of

Dickson, "I wasn't prepared to

stay and fight in a difficult

fight but if the fight is

easier I will." I have a lot

of respect and regard for Peter

Dutton. He's been a friend of

mine since before we were both

elected in 2001. He is a man

who makes a very strong

contribution on the Coalition who makes a very strong

side of parliament. He's got

the appearance of being a

Minister in Government and I

have no doubt if he's

re-elected in Dickson Peter

Dutton will make an excellent

advocate on behalf of the

people of Dickson. The people

of Dickson have a choice to

make. They can look at electing

a Labor backbencher who's going

to be quite frankly canon fodder for Kevin Rudd or they

can have a representative who's

going to be on the front bench- Shouldn't

bench- Shouldn't he have

decided to stay and fight right

from the beginning? I don't

think anyone would begrudge

someone from assessing the

options. Everyone has

responsibilities to their

family and their role as an MP

and everyone has

responsibilities to making the decision they feel is best

based on the circumstances.

Circumstances change, decisions

alter. Ultimately Peter Dutton

is an excellent advocate for the Dickson community and I'm

certain that if the people of

certain that if the people of

Dickson put their faith in him

he will repay it in spades, as

he has done over the past 7, 8,