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(generated from captions) State Governments could see

new federal funding for

hospitals as soon as July, if

they agree to the Prime

Minister's health reform

plan. Kevin Rudd has recently

announced $5 00 million for

emergency awards ahead of that important COAG meeting next

week. Today he is expected to

announce 730 million for aged

care. Opposition health

spokesman Peter Dutton joins us

now from Brisbane. Good

morning. Many groups around the

country have been calling for

more detail of this plan and

for more money to ancillary

areas around hospitals. It

would seem that's now what the

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is

doing. It's starting to sound

like a plan, isn't it? Good

morning, Virginia. It's

certainly starting to sound

like like an ad hoc plan.

That's why overnight That's why overnight the New

South Wales prem premier has

critical as Premier Brumby

continues to be. We've got to

look at the plan in its entirety. There will be

dribbles of policy over the

next couple of days. And I

think one of the criticisms

that is fairly puts at the

moment is that premiers will

receive this detail right up

until the day of COAG. I don't

know how particularly their

analyse whether or not this is Treasury experts can properly

enough money, whether these are

just figures and numbers that

are plucked out of the air. I

think the other criticism at

the moment and concern that

people have is that whilst

everybody wants reform in the

health and aged care space, and

whilst we support extra

investment into aged care, one

of the real criticisms is that the Prime Minister doesn't have

the capacity to deliver. He

promised 2,000 beds in aged

care only 12 months ago. And

just over 250 of those places

have been able to be delivered.

Or are operational. And that's

the real criticism, is not that

there's no grandness to these

not Kevin Rudd actually announcements, it's whether or

delivers on what he promises. We've heard actually

a contrary view from someone

who's locked right into that

sector and that's the Chief

Executive Officer of Australia's Aged Care Association. And he Association. And he says none

Muncement like this is actually

precisely what he wants to hear

and it's more about control of

the area and if that goes to

the Commonwealth rather than

being divided between splee

separate areas, he says that's

a good thing. Do you concede

that me must know what he's

talking about? He's obviously

talking about streamlining in

terms of the responsibilities

which currently exist particularly between the federal and the

Commonwealth. He says is a

good thing and which hasn't happened before under any

previous government, including

your own? That's a separate

issue and streamlining and

fusht efficiencies, we can

support all of that. What I'm

saying is in terms of the

numbers, and this is an

industry which is on its xees

and has been for a couple of

years, but the problem is that

when the government makes these

announcements of a couple of

thousand places we find over thousand places we find over

the next 12 months when we look

back at it, in the area of aged

care for argument's sake only

just over 250 of those places

are operational. If you look at

the area of nurses the government promised thousands

of places for extra nurses.

Only a trickle of those nurses

are now on-line. If you look at

the issue of new beds, of acute

beds in our tertiary hospitals

which are desperately needed

the Prime Minister made that

promise two years ago and yet

the AMA in the health hospitals

report said that there was no

evidence that any of those beds

had been delivered. So let's look at what's actually delivered by Kevin Rudd, not

what's promised by him. And I

think when you have these ad

hoc policy announcements in the

lead-up to COAG, it doesn't

show that this has been a plan

that's been properly thought

through. I think that's what Mr Corbett's expressed as well.

These are people who are

question whether or not this is working in the feed and really

just a political process by the

Prime Minister as opposed to a

better patient outcome which is

what we're after. Dut Tutt dut,

no doubt we'll talk again as

even more of those

announcements are made in the

next tu days in the lead-up to