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A charge of attempted murder

John Howard has continued to has been dropped. And the PM

keep the heat on Kevin Rudd

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Australian Premier Brian Burke.

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'Stateline' with Phillip

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Hello and welcome. This is

State line, a program just for

the ACT and the region. I'm

Philip Williams. Welcome also

to the autumn season and some

unseasonal weather. We'll have

more pictures of that

extraordinary storm at the end

of the program. We'll also meet

the woman who reads to her

dogs, and the dogs at the RSPCA

looking for a home. Library not

essential. But libraries are

essential to people and after

closure of Griffith, it seems

more cuts may be coming. Local

writer and readers tell us of

their concerns. But what of

that storm? I live just outside

the ACT and from there we could

watch this enormous cloud

gather over Canberra and all

the electrical active. Barely a

drop of rain fell in Hall,

Spence or Gungahlin and yet serious floods caused devastation across the city. It

mite be argued that therewise

advanced warning that this

storm was bilk. You could see

it and hear it. Nonetheless emergency services are copping

some flak for their failure to

issue any warning at all. If

there is a warning system in

place, is it fair enough to ask

why didn't it work? When bare

legs and bucket are your only

defences against the hail from

hell, something's gone

wrong. With 15 crews available

to respond, you can see very

quickly how you're overrun and

don't have the capacity to deal

with a major storm such as this. And to be fair, not even the Bureau of Meteorology saw

it coming. The super cell

unleash add fury not seen in

Canberra for many years.

But while the weather bureau

did issue a warning just after

9:00, the Emergency Services

Authority didn't officially

warn us at all. We're not happy

with the way the warning, we

immediately. Obviously people could have got it out

were concentrating on getting

crews on the road rather than

dealing with the warning. I

suppose there's two issues.

People can hear the thunder,

they can hear the rain coming

but that's probably not the way

that we want to operate. We

want to get the warnings out as

soon as possible and we've

issued a yellow warn ing this

afternoon with storms around us

at the moment. It's now around

4:00 on the day after the storm

on Wednesday, and the emergency

services agency on its website

has got a yellow warning, it

says that there will be a

likely storm threat to if ACT

and thunderstorm act in any

event the Territory this

afternoon or tonight. And

that's pretty clear. If you go

to the website here with the

Bureau of Meteorology, sure

enough you can see all these

storms in the area. It is very

active. However, also on the

bureau's site their warning of

the storm area specifically

excludes Canberra. It goes all

the way around Canberra. It's

to the east, to the north but

not Canberra itself. So how do

you decide who's right and

difference between life and wrong? When it could mean the

death, it's important to get

that distinction right. As a

community we've got to realise

that the science and

understanding of storms is quite advanced in Australia but

the fact of the matter is that

these storms develop very

quickly and as an individual in

our community, we need to be

prepared that not on every

occasion we're going to be able

to give a warning. On the day

Jon Stanhope faced down a no

confidence vote over his

handling of the bushfires, the

city centre was cleaning up the

mess from our latest natural disaster. The minister

responsible for the emergency

services authority, Simon

Corbell declined an invitation

to speak to us about the ESA

response. We were told it's an

operational matter, talk to

them. Was there a mistake made

on that night or wasn't there? No, there wasn't a

mistake made. I think the

information we had to hand and

in hindsight, yes, we might

have made a different decision.

But on the information we had

available to us of a general

storm warning, the judgment of

the officers was, in my view,

correct. How can we be

confident that you will be able

to give the warnings necessary

when clearly on this occasion

you failed to do so? Well,

we've said quite clearly that

on this occasion in hindsight

we should have issued a

warning. We've reviewed our

procedures and on - like all

organisations, we'll undertake

to, in the future, to do a

better job. That sounds like a

mistake . Well, as I suggested,

there is no mistake here. The

procedures were followed, a

little bit more slowly than

desirable. I guess from the

Canberra public's point of view

is the bottom line is we had a

terrible storm, a destructive

storm and got no warning from

this organisation. Well, the

bureau issued a warning

generally to the public. But

you're not the bureau. No, but

we do rely on the bureau to send warnings to the public and

we analyse that information and make a judgment in each

case. It seems to me that the

logical conclusion of what

you're saying is go to the

weather bureau, don't go to you

first? Well, the weather bureau

does issue storm warnings and

we will back up those storm

warnings by issuing further

warnings where we, in our

judgment, see an impact

happening on the city.

Incredible weather, wasn't

snit there's some very unhappy

Canberrans when the Government

closed the looick library at

Gift. It's early days yet to

judge the public response to

the new kisk library. One thick

we do know, parking may been

aish shoe. It seems the

Government may not be done with

lieb r. A report on the library's website suggest

others are in the firing line,

if not for closure than for

possible reduction in staff and

services. Catherine Garrett has

the story. (All chant (We want

the library! It's been three

months since Canberrans vented

their outrage at the closure of

Griffith library. For many its

demise was seen as an attack on the heart of the

community. Perhaps the people

who govern us don't value these

things enough. I think people do. It's the beginning of a

world of deprivation, of people

not being given wider

opportunities in the

educational, if you like, and

the intellectual sense of that

word. But as one library shut,

another multimillion dollar

library opened in Civic. Until

closed this week by storm

damage, it was the jewel in the

ACT Government's vision for how

libraries will operate in the

future, and according to it ,

the way forward. Better

Internet access, tourism information and space for

community meetings among its offerings. Library of the

future is about ensuring that

your library service is

relevant to the broader

community. We certainly know

that we want to ensure that

libraries are focused on areas

where people access them to

most, retail hubs, for

example. The Civic library

might be an absolutely

wonderful library but unless

people can get there easily and

want to get there there's no

point and for so many people

it's just too

difficult. Christine Aldred

says people have chosen not to

go to Civic, saying there's no

where to park, the bus is inconvenient and it's all too

hard. A library is a lot more

than about books. It's about a

community, it's about a meeting

place, it's a place where to go

and educate yourself. Be

familiar with the books of and literature. It's about becoming familiar with words from an

early age and all of those

things are so important for our

community and our society and

that has just - that is not

replaced by, you know, a

beautiful grand building in the

middle of the city. Further

unease is growing among the

city's library users with

closer reading of a

consultant's report posted on

the library's website. This is

the report which recommended

Griffith's closure. Unless you

knew the report existed, what

it was called, and where to

look for it on the Internet,

you wouldn't have known that it

even existed. The report

identifies cost savings of

around $2.5 million a year from

existing services. Such as

introducing a tiered system of

libraries. Group centres like

Dickson, Kippax and Erindale

could have services and opening

hours scaled back while the

town centre libraries including

Civic, expand. New technology

would be introduced to save on

labour costs. We're certainly

looking at the radio frequency

identification which is a model

whereby people actually come to

library, use the librariesor

access to lieb r. So saving

money without staff there. Sort themselves out basically. Saving money without

staff there? I think you're

jumping to conclusion there's. They're talking about

building a library system with

a hierarchy so that there will

be, you know, three or four

core libraries and the rest of

them will have - be demoted

really and produce core

activities only. So it all

means one thing, that library

services are being reduced and

we're being encouraged to go to

these superlibraries. It's

infearating. It get very angry

when I see the benefits that

the library could be and are to

a large extent providele, being

cut, where staff are being cut,

where libraries themselves are

being cut and where the hours

of access to them and the

location and all the rest of it

are being cut. To me this is a

deprivation of literacy f you

like as well as civil

liberties. We're not planning

on downgrading libraries, we're

planning on making libraries

relevant to the community we

need to be always looking at

how we're delivering library

services, we need to look at

innovative practices. I would

say if they are saying that, they're talking with a very

forked tongue. They're talking

in a way that isn't fair dinkum

and they're talking in a way

that isn't in the best

interests of the Canberra community. Long-term Dickson

library uni users Chrysanon Salter worry the recommend

ition mark the beginning of the

end. My view is that if you

start cutting back the

facilities that are available

in a library like this, the

next stage is inevitable and

that will be to say there are

not a many user. If, for

example, I can't get the books

I want here, if it's only for a

resource for booking out books

I've had to order on the

Internet, user numbers start to

decline and that gives further

impetus for if Government to

say there's not demand for if

library. You don't want

centralised library. A lot of

these people don't have cars,

they come on the bus or if they

do have cars, they're not

always very happy about

negotiating the kind of parking

situation you've got. When I

went last went to the Civic

library the parking was

absolutely horrendous. It was

dreadful. I think that we have

to think of more things than

saving money when it's a matter

of our community values that we

should spend money on things

that will make for community

happiness and I think libraries

do. The ACT Government has Ginn

assurances no further libraries

will be closed as a result of

the report and Rosemary Kennedy

says "There will be

consultation on any process

that we go forward with." Our

plan is to innovate libraries,

our plan is to make libraries

community centres, have them opened up so that they're

actually interfacing with the

community, people - the collections is the collection

for the ACT, we believe that we

will be strengthening our

collections moving forward, we

believe that people will

actually see a much more robust

interface with their library

service moving forward. I'm

looking forward to my first

interface with a library

service. It sounds exciting, whatever it. Is the

consultant's report is on the

ACT library's website and there

will be a link from it to our

website on Monday. Now it's a

hard heart that isn't moved by

the mere mention of the word

lost dog's home. That's where

thousands of canine across the

country find themselves lost

and wandering after a

thunderstorm, surrendered,

unwaned or simply discarded. In

Canberra last year 860 dogs

found their way to the RSPCA.

But with the local dog clubs

they combined to ensure as many

pooches as possible do find a

new home. Is our little man in

here? Hello, what's your story?

My little boy. Little boy who

needs a new home by the looks

of it, hey? Hello little guy.

Are you a friendly little man?

I think you. Are and you've got

no collar either. Yes, it's a

bit frightening, isn't it,

being in a scary place. This

is little Kimba. We think he's

about six months old. He was

left in our drop off kennels.

The owner said they couldn't

look after him anymore. He

didn't have a name so we've

called him Kimba for Kimba the

white lion. We think he might

be a kelpie cross bull terrier.

He's a very friendly little guy

but doesn't u have much of a

clue about the world. Probably

left in the backyard as a

garden gnome. He'd probably be

considered far family with

older children and who have had

previous dog experience who

have some fairly good dog

skills themselves. We'll teach

him some basic manners such as

sitting for pats and to be nice

and calm and enjoy the

attention that people like to

give him in a nice, calm manner

so it's enjoyable for him and

enjoyable for the people giving

it to him. Who's that? Who's

that?. (Dogs bark) Good boy.

With his dog-to-dog skills

they're really very poor so

we'll be getting him to learn

that dogs are a source of fun

also. That he can play with

them and he can say hello and

he can also walk calmly past

them as welt.- as well. Our

focus is on finding homes for

adoptable dogs. The last year

we averaged between 800 and 900

dogs and about 9 ve 860 last

year came through the RSPCA.

Given the numbers and the

commitment we have to

education, it allows us to have

some more time with each dog.

In other shelters and RSPCA

where they don't have the

additional training staff, each

dog might get 10 or 15 minutes

with a staff member to get an

assessment whereas in Canberra

we get two, three, four hours.

We don't have any formal

arrangements with a club. If

there is a need, if we don't

have - if we have a dog that

hasn't presented well of a

specific breed, we'll contact

the club and ask if they're

interested in helping us find a

home or if they know of anybody

who is looking for this type of

dog. I think it's time for a

story, what do you think? Shall

we have a story time? Angus at

the ducks rr. We get hundreds

of calls both from the Scottie

club and the Westie club about

taking on a rescue. We're very

fussy though who we let have

these dogs because they maybe

on their second home and

therefore they've got to have continuity. The first Scottie

that came to me was Jamie and

he was left to me by someone

who actually passed away. After

that I was completely hooked on

Scotties. The Westies are far

more needy. They like you to be

around them more but Scotties they like your company but they

also like to be their own

person. They were owned by

David McNicol. David McNicol

was a journalist in the Packer

group and he finally died in

the year 2000. These girls were

then about six years of age and

they were taken on by a friend

of his who unfortunately she

couldn't keep them. First I

said I'd only take one but they

had to go together because

they'd spent their lives

together and it's taken me 10

months really to get them to

the condition that they are

today. Little Skye here, she's

got Cushing's disease and she

has to have special medication,

special care and Kilty, she's

come up a treat. She's just

lovely. She's really, I think

now in her prime even though

she's 12. The first few tests

are looking for sociability. We

want to see if this guy is more

interested in people than what

else is going ochblt he's

looking friendly, he's got nice

eyes an ears but also a little

bit unsure. (Dog barks and

growls) Hello, what's your name? Goodbye. Nice, so very

good recovery. Good boy.Can I

have it? Good boy. Have it

back. Good boy.Good boy.

Yielding every time I come

close which is all a good

response. Good boy. Let's see

if I can push his head out and

that was very easy. I'll leave

him in peace now to eat his

meal. I think he can certainly

a candidate to go out for

adoption. We'll do a bit more

work on the dog-to-dog stuff

before we make him available

but I think we can book him

into the vet clinic to get him

de-sexed ready for adoption. I

think we've got the low est

euthanasian rate in the

study. The noise sounds like

this, quack, quack, quack, but

sometimes it sounded like this

quackity quackity quackity

quack. They run the home, they

run me, they - I was told when

I first took them on that they

were outside dogs but every

evening Skye comes to me and

says "Right, time for bed" and

she puts her feet up on the bed

and I have to give her a bunk

up and they sleep on my bed.

And then Angus said "Woof". And

a very excited Kimba is joining

me in the studio here. You're

still looking for a home. Look

at that face, how could you not

give this beautiful dog your heart? Very excited to see

herself on the television.

Kimba needs a home where there

are no other depogs. You don't

have to read to him, he's more

of a comic sort of chap. Images

of that storm still to come.

For the second time now in the

series Jo Laverty's series on

first im pletion pretions.

Hello I'm Jo, for this week

we've come to Gold Creek and

we're going to ask couples

their very first memories of each other and see if they

match up. Last week on State

line Phil Williams said if you

see Jo coming run for the

hills. I'm really hoping that

doesn't happen today. My name's

Jacqui. My name's Bill. Jacqui

and Bill. Jack ki, can you tell

me your very first memory of

Bill? Oh, yes, he - I met him

at work. He was tall, very,

very overweight, it's true,

isn't it? Yeah. Yes, he was,

and very, very quiet. Very

quiet. Very gentlemanly. So

quiet and overweight and what

did you think when you saw

him? A nice guy, he's OK, yes.

I didn't see him as anyone to

go out with. It didn't even

cross my mind. How were you

working together? We worked

together in a big company, in

an organisation. Met at a conference. Yes. And do you

remember the first time you met

Jacqui? Yes. What was your very

first memory? Just OK, nothing,

you know, wow or anything like

that. No except his eyes were

always down at my delooefage, the whole time, I remember

that. It wasn't like that. He

said he was shy and didn't want

to look at me. You tell

stories. I like how you said to

him before you started "Now you

behave yourself." How did you

go from being two people who

didn't think too much about

each other to being married

now? Oh, well. Very

quickly. Yes. We went - I was

going up to see some friends

about what, three hours drive

away from Melbourne, and we

happen to be speaking on the

phone and I said to him I was

going up there on Monday and he

said I haven't been up there. I

thought what a pity you could

have come with me and he said I

can get a day off. So he did.

And that was the start of it,

wasn't it? So you were

interested in her by then? Oh

yeah, she was a nice woman. Oh well. With very nice

cleavage. Yes, yes, that's

right. What is your

relationship now? Been married

what, 27 years. That's about

right, 27 year, yes. Can I

start by asking your name

please. Beryl. Beryl. Mervein. Can

I ask you your first memory of

Mervyn. I was only a kid. He

was just the best looking thing

that there ever was. How old

were you when you were a

kid? Oh, I was probably 12 or,

you know, and then we got

married when I was 17. Really? I was only just 17,

yeah. Wow. So can you - I mean

when you're 12 your memories

are a bit hazy. What's your

first recollection that you can

think of? Just him on his

motorbike. Can you remember the

fers time you saw Beryl? I

wouldn't have a bloody clue. So

you would have been 18, so she

would have seemed like a kid to

you at the time? Yeah. Was she

trying to hang around

you? No. No, I don't think

so. Nope. And then when I was a

bit older he started to do the

chasing bit. OK. Was he still the best looking thing

around? Oh yes, always was,

yes. Can you remember your

first kiss? Christ. I don't

think so. I don't know. We used

to smoush up whenever we could,

I think. Smoush up? He always

liked - devlou liked kissing,

didn't you? Why not. So what's

your relationship now? Oh,

we've been married for nearly

45 years, yeah. Extra good,

yeah. I don't know whether you should put it on anything

though. You were particularly

great. Me? I did nothing. Well

you could all do something and

take Kimba home with you. Now

you can see Kimba at the RSPCA

shelter this weekend and many other dogs that are looking for

a home just like this beautiful

pooch, aren't you gorgeous?

Thanks for helping me today and

growling only a little bit. Now that's nearly us done for

another week. Stories and links

and transcripts will be on our

website on Monday as well as

our email address. We always

like to hear from you with any

comments or suggestions you

have for the program. But to

finish, another look at the

storm and its aftermath. Music

by the late, great Billy

Thorpe. From Kimba and I, goodnight.

SONG: # Where troubles melt

like lemon drops

# I wait up of the chimney tops

# That's where you'll find me

# Well somewhere over the rainbow

# Skies are blue

# And your dream s that you

dare to dream

# Really do come true Closed Captions by CSI

SONG: # Some day I wish upon a star

# And wake up where the clouds

are far behind me

# Where troubles melt like

lemon dropsHash away above the

chimney tops

# That's where you'll find me

# Well somewhere over the


# Two birds fly

# Birds fly over the rainbow

# Why can't I?

# If birds fly over the rainbow

# Why can't I? #

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