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(generated from captions) which is to face increased

Federal Opposition appears to isolation and pressure. The

regarding the government's have had a change of heart

emissions trading scheme. After

months of stalling Malcolm

Turnbull now says he is ready

to negotiate. For more on this the opposition spokesman for

emissions trading design Andrew

Robb joins us now. Thanks for

joining us. My

pleasure. What's shifted in the

mind of Malcolm Turnbull and

the opposition? Have movements

and decisions made in the

United States had a great

impact on the way you're seeing

the design of an ETS here in

Australia? We have been saying

now for many months that we

should not conclude any sort of

Bill in Australia until the

United States, the shape of the

United States' Bill is clearer.

Now the first step of that

occurred on Friday when a Bill

went through the Lower House.

The content of that had been

known for some time. There's

still other major steps to take

place with that Bill to go

through that Senate in the

United States but with the

United States being one third

of all of the emissions in the

world we're only 1%. , then

it's absolutely critical to be

in step with the United States,

not be well out ahead otherwise

he we will be very

uncompetitive. We're concerned

that we be informed by what's

happening in the US and other

developments around the world.

Malcolm Turnbull said yesterday

that we are prepared and

hooking to negotiate in the

months ahead. Now, that is no

different to our position that

we have maintained for some

time now. We are concerned to

get this scheme right. It's the

biggest deliberate structural

change in our over. It's very

important we get the nature of

the Bill right so we actually

do reduce emissions but don't

do material and irreversible

damage to major industry and

jobs. Well, your leader Malcolm

Turnbull clearly said over the

weekend that when Parliament

returned in August, you would be in a position to be in a position to present

amendments which you hope the

government will accept. But

just looking at the way the

Australian population ... No,

sorry ... That's the quote I'm

reading from the paper that

you'd be in a position to

present amendments. Not true?

Well, I have spoken to him

since. I'm very clear on what

was in his head. I've read what

he said. It's consistent

request what he told me subsequently. That s the

coalition is looking to find

what amendments would be

necessary to make what is at

the moment a sdeeply flawed

scheme something that would be

acceptable. He did not put a

time frame on T we have said

all along our reference is to

wait beyond Copenhagen and

until we know more broadly the

shape of the United States'

scheme and until we do some

modelling. We've had to

commission the modelling

ourselves because the

government won't do it. So he's

not putting a time frame on it

but we are very constructively

looking and have done for some

months now to try to get this

scheme right. I'm off to the

United States in a few days'

time, into Beijing, again to be

better informed about what the

rest of the world is doing, so we're not out of step with

them. I'm not trying to tie

you down to a false timetable

here but I wanted to put to you

on the issue of amendments and

the government's had its say

about what it will and won't

negotiate on after a period of

negotiation, what the Australian population is

clearly something today that

the ETS, the scheme as proposed

by the government right now, 65% of Australians accept that

as it is right now. Isn't that

something that as an opposition

you have to listen to

seriously? 95% of Australians

wouldn't have the foggiest idea

what's in that Bill. What do

you base that on? Well, from all of the contact I've had

with people around the country,

which has been ... 95% of

them? I've - I'm just saying

to you, what people are saying

and quite legitimately are

saying is that they want

something done on climate

change. We accept that. We had

a Bill in front of the

Parliament 12 months before the

government had a proposal, so

we are looking to do something

in a very constructive way.

What we've said is that the

Bill the government has come up

with is deeply flawed. We want

to get this ... You have said

that repeatedly but let's be

clear here. When those

Australians looking at the

emissions trading scheme as

proposed right now by the

government, that's acceptable

to them, you don't accept that

view? No, what I accept is

that the Australian community

and we have accepted and we

support it, is that people want

something done. Our

responsibility as the

opposition, we're the ones who

have got the capacity to look

in detail at what the

government's got on the table.

To confer widely with industry and green groups and others

this Bill is friendless at the

moment of the the only people supporting it at the government. The only people who

support the detail of it are

the government. We have a responsibility to keep the

government accountable and to

make sure that when bills do go

through the House that they

their Australia's interests and

they are the best Bill

possible. This is an issue of

such significance that it's

very important for us as an

opposition, for the

cross-benches, for the Greens

party, that this Bill does

what it says it's going to do.

At the moment it fails on all fronts. We have to get it

right. If we do that we'll

satisfy the will of the people

but also have good policy. On

the opinion polls published in

papers across the country

today, the position of your

leader Malcolm Turnbull has

crashed. His approval rating is

now wallowing at un sustainable

levels. Will he be the leader

when Australia next goes to the

polls? I have no doubt about

that. Notwithstanding the

events of last week and with

all the elements of it from the

fake email and the shadowy

Treasury official, Senate

hearings and all the rest, it

asuperintendented a soap

opera-type atmosphere last week

and I think that reflects

what's happened in the polls

this week. You think he will

come back? I do. When you get

a soap opera-type environment

it's unreal. When we settle

back into issues such as the

$300 billion debt and the

government's responses and what

it will do to protect jobs and

all the rest, those issues in

the end will be what determines

our position going into the

next election. I think Malcolm

Turnbull has already shown he

can prosecute that case very

effectively over the last few

weeks. I thought he handled

himself under very difficult

circumstances, very strongly