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(generated from captions) constructively engage at this

stage. I'll just mention the PM

Julia Gillard is in western

Sydney and she's actually

stepping up to the motorcycles

now. She's at a business called

Toll fleet in western

Sydney. I'm here with the

member for Parramatta, Julie

Owen, with the member for

colleague Senator Evans who dhifly, with my ministerial

does very important work for us

on skills. And we're here today

as you can see at Toll and

we're here because Toll has

made an offer to engage 700

more staff over the coming few

months to do that extra work in

a way that means they are

putting on 30 more apprentices.

So this is great news here in

Sydney's west. But it's part of

a bigger picture about apprenticeships that is a bigger picture about jobs and

happening right around the

nation. We've got more Australians in work than Australians in work than ever

Australians in apprenticeship before. We've got more

and training places than ever

before, indeed approximately

60,000 more under the life of

this Government. That's good

news but we do know the Australian economy is changing

still need the opportunity to and we know lots of people

get a job or to get the skills

to get a job through an

apprenticeship, so I'm very pleased to be here today as

part of the campaign by News

Limited community newspapers to

create 11001 new jobs. The great news about great news about this campaign

which was kicked off a which was kicked off a while

back is that it's already exceeding its target. The

original aim was to create 1001

new jobs in 101 days where a

third of the way in and already

the target is being exceeded.

More jobs being created. And the contribution of Toll to

that target is a remarkable

one, with 700 jobs, 30 of apprenticeships. This hasn't one, with 700 jobs, 30 of them just been just been achieved by big

employers like Toll. The result

is being achieved by small

businesses stepping forward and

saying that they're prepared to

put on an additional one put on an additional one person

or two people or one additional

apprentice in their business so

this is a community effort, it

involves local members, local involves local newspapers, it involves local newspapers,

employment services, local

training providers, all working together to maximise

opportunities in their local

communities for work. So it's

great to be here today to be

able to see more jobs being

created in the west of Sydney

and congratulations to News

Limited local papers on the

work that they are doing in

this campaign. I'm very happy to take questions. REPORTER: Do

you retain full confidence in

the mob for Dobell and can you

explain Australia's report won't explain why Fair Work

Australia's report won't be released publicly and not even to NSW and Victorian police.

Shouldn't it at least go to

them? To take your questions in

reverse order, I don't have a

copy of this Fair Work

Australia report. Mr Australia report. Mr Abbott

doesn't have a copy of this

report. I can understand the

strong degree of interest in

but it's release is a question

for Fair Work Australia so you

need to direct those questions towards Fair Work Australia. In

relation to your first

question, I don't have anything

before me which would cause me

to alter from my previous statements of confidence statements of confidence in Craig Thomson. The ACTU's

considering tomorrow whether to kick out kick out the HSU, Jeffrey

Bleich says that he has a seero tolerance towards corruption

not have the same for Craig are corruption so why do you

Thomson? The ACTU is making a decision about one of its

that decision tomorrow. That's affiliates and it will take

a matter for the ACTU. On the

question of members of

parliament, in the past when members of parliament members of parliament have been

the subject of referrals to the

DPP they've continued to participate

participate in the life of the

parliament and in the life of

their political party, indeed

one of Mr Abbott's

parliamentary secretaries was

in precisely that position and

at the time PM Howard said

proper processes should take

their course, that is true here

and in relation to Mr

Thomson. ... Seek a copy of that report and change your view about what is before view about what is before you

to make an assessment on Mr

Thomson? I understand the

strong interest in this report,

but the question of its release but the question of its

is a matter for Fair Work

Australia which is independent

of Government. ... Asking to

see... Fair Work Australia is

independent and it needs to make its decisions independently of

Government. ... Ever asked the

local member did he use his

credit card, union credit card, illegally

illegally or use it to buy

prostitutes, do you ever in

your conversations ask him if

he... Mr Thomson's public

statements as you would statements as you would be

aware are - he has said

any of these allegations. I publicly that he is innocent of

don't believe any different

answers would be supplied in

any circumstances. Craig Thomson publicly and privately

has said exactly the same thing

and you have access to those

statements as well as I statements as well as I do. If Craig Thomson is charged with

criminal offences will you

still want him to sit with the Government in parliament. The

Opposition has suggested he

should sit on the cross benchers? I'm not going to

engage in hypothetical

speculation about what plight

happen. But I do note a member

of Mr Abbott's team was the of Mr Abbott's team was

subject of criminal charges and

continued to participate as Liberal Party member. She was continued to participate as a

dealt with in a matter of three

or four months, hasn't this

gone on much too long? Once

again you'll have to put that

to Fair Work Australia. But

you're PM? I see that you're PM? I see that the

Opposition walks both sides of

the street on this question.

Some days they chide and try and suggest that the Government

has politically interfered in

this investigation, on other

days they call on the

Government to politically

interfere and speed the

investigation up. The Opposition might walk both sides of the streets I only say

the one thing, the same thing -

Fair Work Australia is

independent and it makes its

decisions independently of Government. But the fact Government. But the fact this

report is no readily available,

it's a bad look for your

Government, surely? This is a

decision for Fair Work

Australia. They've made the

decision about this matter and

will make all future decisions

independently of Government. How worried are you? (INAUDIBLE)

This is a matter for Fair Work Australia. Of course I became

aware yesterday that Fair Work

Australia had

Australia had said publicly

that it had a report and that

it was forwarded the report to

the department PP so it's the department PP so it's all Fair Work Australia's Fair Work Australia's process,

my reaction was no more than to note the facts. This looks

pretty bad for pretty Government? That's not true. How do you put that

allegation? You just used the

word Minister, how do you put

that allegation. I said

potentially. But you said

Minister, how do you put that

allegation, so let's just be a

bit clear about the facts here.

Yes? This whole saga doesn't

look very good for look very good for your Government having Craig Thomson even remotely associated with

this, agree? Let's go back to precedents in the precedents in the parliament.

Mr Abbott has a member of his

team who has he has asked to served a a parliamentary sector

who if Mr Abbott was PM would

presumely serve as such in the

Government. A member of the

executive who under the executive who under the former Howard Government was the subject of referral to the DPP. Back then, PM John Howard said

proper processes should take

their course, he continued to participate in their

and in the life of his

political party. So Mr political party. So Mr Abbott's track record as opposed to the

things that he might be saying

now his track record is one

where in the past when a member member of his own party has

been the subject of a refer ale

to the DPP he's viewed it as

appropriate for them to

continue to participate in the

Liberal Party and in the

parliament. A west of Sydney question for you. Anymore on

this issue and then we'll move

to other issues? There's been

calls from Kathy Jackson calls from Kathy Jackson given

how long this investigation how long this investigation has taken for a judicial inquiry

into Fair Work Australia, is

that something that you would

support considering the length

of this? This is all a matter for Fair Work Australia. Before the last election the last election you

intervened to save intervened to save Laurie

Ferguson in a western Sydney seat. Will you be intervening

to save Craig Thomson in

Dobell? I'm not dealing with hypothetical questions. How

many jobs are going to go from

the departments of regional

Australia, arts sport and local

Government? There's speculation

about jobs in the department of

regional Australia, the, that is speculation. No decisions

have been taken. There's also

material in today's material in today's newspapers

about voluntary redundancies in

the climate change department.

There will be voluntary redundancies in the climate

change department. The big

complex policy work about

carbon pricing is done, it's

finished and because carbon

pricing is coming into effect a

number of oh programs that that department used

department used to run are being brought to an end. Yesterday we saw some critical remarks from the

auditor Joan about the way your

Cabinet functions. Do you take

any of those criticism on board

and will you be changing the

way things operate in term of

tenders like the Australia Network? I commented on the Auditor-General report yesterday and let me say, of course this was about smooth process every step of the way

but the right decision was made and the right decision was for

the ABC to do this work. On several occasion s... It operates under... Governing act

which makes it independent. Is

there a case now though for

that Act to be reformed and I'm sure Fair Work Australia

operates in a timely manner in

the public interest? I believe that it's appropriate for the

industrial umpire not to be the subject of dictates from a

Government. I do believe it's appropriate for the appropriate for the industrial

umpire to be independent. Would

you really want a circumstance

where Mr Abbott if he was ever

elected PM could issue an edict

and tell the industrial umpire

to strip penalty rates out of

every award in the nation? We

know they've done it in the

past through WorkChoices, would

wow really want a position

where if Mr Abbott was efficient PM he could stand

over the industrial um tire and

tell them what to do. Would you

really want a situation in a

big dislute like the Qantas

dispute where the PM of the day

could stand over Fair Work

Australia and tell them what to

do. Fair Work Australia is independent, it's independent

under its regulation, in the parliament and that's

appropriate. On this report, I

understand the strong interest

in this report but the

independent umpire is the independent umpire and it independent umpire and it will

make its own decisions. (INAUDIBLE)

My reaction is as I've put My reaction is as I've put it

here, I understand the strong

degree of interest in this

report, I don't have it, report, I don't have it, Mr

Abbott doesn't have it, and how

it is released if it is

releaseside a question releaseside a question for Fair

Work Australia. Were you suggesting before that suggesting before that the

Andrew Lamming case... I said

matters in relation to him were

the subject of consideration by

the DPP, that is 100% accurate.

We're about to go to that

event. And soccer is a great porities pation sport out here

in the west. I've got local

members with me. Ed and members with me. Ed and Julie

who can tell you all about it.

This is mass participation

sport. We want to see more kids

out there being active on the

sporting field, you don't have

to be a budding star, but you

have, you know, we want kids

out there playing out there playing sport, having

a go, we know as a nation that

we face some big health issues

with obesity, with inactivity,

we know for many kids and young people how seductive it is to sit inside on the sit inside on the computer

Facebook playing the games, but

not get outside kick a ball,

get out with your mate, get

some sunshine, get some fresh

air, so I'm all four across the

many great sporting codes many great sporting codes in our country

our participation and encouraging people to strive to be people to strive to be better

and better, soccer is doing a great job at that here great job at that here in Sydney's west. Ros Kelly as

sports Minister, put money into

marginal Labor seats, surely

there is another funding

project? I invite you to look

across how we fund sport and then see if your question

stands up to any form of analysis. Could you please

comment on why it's important to get more apprentices engaged

in training especially in

transport logistics? Thank for that question and I

certainly can. This is a

growing industry. A growing

industry in our nation and one

in which we've got a cartive advantage as we take advantage as we take our skills

to the region in which we live.

I've been talking to the

Australian community about the

spectacular growth in the

region in which we live, that

is full of possibilities for

us. Economic opportunities for

us. We will not only see additional demand for transport

and logistics in our own

country, as we export the goods

that we know that Asia wants to

buy from us, we'll actually see

demand for our expertise in

transport and logistics

directly in the countries in

our region. And so this is a great opportunity for Australian jobs and Australian

people to get the skills they

need for jobs that are going to

be there for the long-term. So it's fantastic to be here and

to see this announcement of more jobs and more apprenticeships. (INAUDIBLE)

Is it really accurate to say

that the that the Labor

Government... You put a million

things to together and

unfortunately none of them is

giving - let's just do some of

the facts because they might

help you. There are more

Australians employed today than

ever before in our nation's

history. Fact. More Australians

employed today than ever

before. Our unemployment rate

is slightly over 5%. Look to

America e it's more than 8%.

Look to countries in Europe a

and you'll find places where

it's more than 20%. We're it's more than 20%. We're in

that position with more

Australians in jobs today than ever before, we're in that

position with that

comparatively low unemployment

rate because we came out of the global financial crisis strong,

because this Government, this

Labor Government, worked to support

support jobs. Now we're in a

situation where our economy is

continuing to undergo change, great opportunities in our

region. They're showing now

through the huge resources boom and

and that's a fantastic thing.

People getting jobs. But People getting jobs. But the

structural change in structural change in our economy is also People

the high Australian dollar and some pressure on the shoulders

of manufacturing and tourism

and other trade exposed

industries. So during these days of change we'll days of change we'll keep

supporting jobs and we will be building the future economy

that gives people the best

chance of prosperity and jobs,

that's what the NBN is about,

the clean energy future, the clean energy future, the minerals resource represent tax, sharing the benefits of

the boom, and it's also what

the skills package that

Minister Evans and I are

working on for the forthcoming COAG meeting is all about,

shaping that future economy, shaping that future economy, so people here in Sydney's west

and people right around the

nation can get the benefits of those future opportunities. In

terms of if job cuts in the

ACT, how will it impact oon the

economy there. Can they afford

to bear much more job cuts? The

Australian public service does

remarkable things and the

workers in that public service

are to be valued and respected, often they get to be the

subject of some fairly lazy

criticism in my view. In the

court of public opinion. I'm a

big respecter of the public

service. As a Government we've

also got to sake some tough

choices to generate a Budget

source plus. That's the right

thing to do by our economy now in these days of strurm change.

It will look in confidence nor

the future of our economy, it

will also mean because the

Government's doing the right

thing , we're taking some of

the pressure off and giving

room for the Reserve Bank to v

moon interest rates should it

choose to do so, something very important to important to families around

the nation. So that's means you

face some tough choices and how we're dealing with some matters

involving public service

employment, one of those employment, one of those tough chases but it's all about doing the right thing by the economy,

the right thing by managing it

in the interests of working

families and that's bringing

the Budget to surplus exactly

as we promised. OK, thank you

very much. So that was the PM

Julia Gillard live from a park

in western Sydney trying to

talk up the jobs record of the Government saying more

Australians are working now

than ever before but the focus of the questions was on the

investigation into the Health Fair Work Australia

Services Union and its former boss Labor MP Craig Thomson. That investigation has wrapped

up and the report's been handed

to the DPP. It hasn't been made

public in full but a media release revealed the

investigation found there'd be

more than 180 breaches of

workplace rules, the release

didn't name any individuals in

particular the PM is saying she

retains full confidence retains full confidence in her

MP Craig Thomson and she says

it's a matter for Fair Work

Australia as to when and if

that report is released and of course earlier today we heard

from the ACTU saying it was

holding an emergency executive

meeting tomorrow to

meeting tomorrow to consider whether the Health Services

Union should be suspended from

that umbrella organisation and

so we'll hear from about that tomorrow. Further on the tomorrow. Further on the PM, she's heading off now to an

announcement about a new soccer team apparently for Western

Sydney and then there's a

community Cabinet meeting

tonight in Parramatta in

western Sydney f you want to

head along to that, that's at