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Stateline. Hello and welcome to

Garrett. Coming up - a kid from Stateline. Ooh - I'm Catherine

Nebraska who's become and you asked for it - a re screening of our very funny screening of our very funny ads for Canberra, plus a new one. First, though, you may

we reported recently on the First, though, you may remember

treatment of one young woman at the hands of the ACT's mental health system. are looking much brighter in that case, since that story,

letters to say that it was no we've had many calls and

isolated incident. Even the

Minister says the current psychiatric unit has not served

the community well and there's

nit the short term. little that can be done about

I through what my daughter I don't want anybody to go

went. It was five weeks ago Stateline about her daughter's that Marily Cintra told

bleak journey through the ACT mental

really hope that people can

focus and take more better care of people with because it's an illness like anyone. She says her daughter's daughter's severe depression

institutionalisation at the worsened because of her

psychiatric services unit at

Canberra Hospital known as the

PSU. And what happens is that she went to her room in the high dependence unit and a man

got into her room and started assaulting her. She didn't have the voice to scream at the

beginning and then when she did of struggle with the man to get the nurses came and had to kind

him from her. She was assaulted. Marily Cintra's him from her. She was sexually

response from Stateline story has triggered a huge

viewers. Including maishts and

mental health nursing and

psychiatric staff. The cone sennious - the ACT's mental health system is health system is overstretched,

underfund and out of touch. Not a lot of prepared to be a public face for it but I think it's just important for change and for public awareness that there's a

face for it. Yes, it's flawer. >>F after seeing Marily Cintra speak out, Katherine Oakey, a long-term sufferer of mental illness bravely to be that face for this story. mental illness bravely decide

She also shared a room with

another hospital Cintra sin's daughter at

2N another hospital at sal vary's

witnessed Cintra sin's 2N ward and it's here that she

daughter's remove al the PSU. We were together for about 50 week before I was moved further back up the to a less acute setting, not

station. And she was an right outside the nurse's

absolutely lovely girl. Gentle as anything. Absolutely

beautiful, just needed help. We didn't even know

afterwards. We saw her taken whether she was OK or not

out of the out of the ward. We - they

could have taken her through a private exit out to emergency but they didn't. They took her us were ever told what had through all the beds, none of

happened to her, until your story aired we didn't even know if she was OK or not. And

was our friend in - this was

the lack of communication not not being heard yet being heard the, the parents

heard - patients again. - The parents not being

heard again. Katherine Oakey heard - patients not being

says accessing immediate has clinical depression and she

in Canberra is a says accessing immediate help

first call is often made in Canberra is a nightmare. The

Crises Assessment Team but Oakey says they're chronically understaffed, only responding

twice to 20 of her call attempts. Even four hours waiting for a crisis team a-Reeve, if they arrive at all waiting for a crisis team to

is way too long to be is way too long to be waiting.

When you are suicidal, it's -

difference between life and four hours can be the

death for a person. With mental death for a person. With a Australia Day, and I rang up - this was when I really was told there slipping down this year and I

no-one to come and see me at was told there was absolutely

all. Is that acceptable that

get through to a crisis answer in the short term is assessment team? I think the

bolster the numbers in the out answer in the short term is to

of hours crisis team so that there are more people and I think more - or an increased ability to go out and have look and talk with people if ability to go out and have a

that happen? Look, from discussions with think it can be done in the next buj Budget, so that's - Budget, if we're looking to bring down in the Budget in May. So we watch these things all the time. If it needs to be brought forward we would do that. In this year's Budget, the ACT governmentalicated $46

precinct at the million for a new mental

Hospital. It will include new precinct at the Canberra

acute and secure mental health a way off completion and for inpatient units but it's still

those in need of help now obstacles those in need of help now the to my doctor who had trying to help me for and I said,, no I need more trying to help me for so long

now. He wrote a letter to the emergency department and sent me there and it took them three

bed. I was in an absolute days for me to actually get a

crisis state. I was completely suicidal and they were sending a sole parent to look after three children in a sole parent home effectively

a suicidal space. I fought

years to stay out of a hospital, to stay out hospital, to stay out of a

situation where crisis was inevitable, and I begged and I begd and begd and I begged. Not only community based things like the

mental health system, my doctor, who is actually very

good, but all

organisations - socialworks, family services even, and there's just no help there's just no help out there before it gets to crisis stage before you're before you're hospital ides. And by then sometimes it is just too late. In this day just too late. In this day and age we actually have the evidence to show that there are a whole a whole range of different service models that can delivered in the community that are Northern hospital based.

That can support people in both

crisis and precrisis periods. And actually prevent And actually prevent them from

having a full blown

relapse. Barry Petrovski from the ACT's mental health

community Coalition says more

staff, out of hours support and home-based services are needed as as well as community facilities

that provide live-in care to help recovery. Unfortunately

mental health - the service system can only really respond when people are in a crisis situation. And if we are truly to move forward and recovery focussed, then hospital needs to be the last point of access. A new shib shiny

shiny institution is not

solve our problems. The continuing argument that basically we need more beds, we

need more beds to cater for the demand is a wrong way demand is a wrong way to look

at the problem. The reason we need more beds is because we don't actually community-based support services, the housing support programs, the rehab programs to

keep people out of the hospital in the first place. We

currently with the most generous jurisdiction in terms of allocating money to the community sector for services, and that's something I would like to see community continue. on. That we were the on. That we were the worst jurisdiction back in 2000, we are now second from the. There's been psychiatric unit. I hasn't

served this community well. It

is not a nice place to stay and there's very little we can do about fixing that up in the

short term, so the Government has taken the decision to build those new facilities, we've funded them in the Budget.

Architects have been appoint and we will be moving very quickly now to get that under way and those facilities up and built. It's fair with those initiatives that is

with those initiatives that is an emphasis on the inpatient institutionalised care,? That's right and that is some of the criticism you get, that criticism you get, that the acute end is getting all the resources and you're taking your eye off the ball of early intervention and

prevention and support in the community. And my response community. And my response to that would be I that would be I can't do that early intervention and community support side to Tex tent that I want to if I don't have adequate inpatient facilities. Mental health nursing staff have told Stateline where of them are at breaking breaking point. Understaff and aware very aware very few graduates are coming through ranks. They speak of speak of a fraught work environment where patients are forcibly contained an emergency

orders for thain own protection and as a last option. They also say they confront regular verbal and physical threats. They're

threats. They're understaff and

there have been times when day staff have had to come in on night shifts. It's more that they - they're not trained counselors. All these people they was in hospital with are at the same time as I am - they're all angry at the state of the system and they're

getting the help that they need. Even if we wanted the new mental health facility

the new mental health facility

tomorrow, we would not be able to just from that to just from that staffing points of view because we are increasing the inpatient beds. That is a huge challenge for

us. I am not going to sit here and say the system is perfect or I don't get complaints or concern with me, I. Do that's my job as the Minister is to respond to

those. That's not unusual

across any area of government

service delivery and - This is people's lives. It's not just government service delivery. OK, but even across Health, more broadly we get concerns and complaints as and we have to respond to those. But at the moment with the - we are doing, I guess, with the resources available, the staff available, you we're moving at 110% in

we're moving at 110% in terms of output. And if things don't change? It will just be more of the getting well? And people not getting well getting well and having - not having the treatment out comes or the recovery out comes that we know are possible.

And we'll keep across that story. When the story. When the Canberra Space Dome and Observatory closed, the question remained open what

to do with the planetarium and

offered to Mount Stromlo, who were happy to accept, but no-one can afford to get gift from A to It's a fantastic deal and It's a fantastic deal and it should work and it will individualstors to Stromlo and it will improve people seeing

the sky. Here we are with a facility that's being for free by the Tradesmen's

Club. All we have to do is pay for the relocation

for the relocation cost. It it

sounds easy enough, the Canberra Space Dome Observatory needs a new home ie. Found a takiner the ANU Mount Stromlo but the move comes with a hefty and so far no willing facility and put it up at Mount

Stromlo, which is our preferred site for it. What we would like

to do is develop this part of the mountain

the mountain for educational tourism. The first step in that program would be to re locate

the Downer planetarium and

small telescopes up here. For more than two decades, this site in Downer was one of the ACT's star attractions for thousands of school

thousands of school children. The history goes back actually to Halley's comet y wr

we got the telescope in for people to be able to see the sky. After that point that was on top of the Tradesmen's Club in Battam Street. And we in Battam Street. And we then

moved over here and moved the

with a planetarium because they're few and far between they're few and far between in Australia Australia and amazingly enough sort of laughing at me the actual people of the Tradesmen's Club decided to Tradesmen's Club decided to go with me. But when the nearby Downer club closed, the fate of Dome and oeb tri was all but sealed and since

sealed and since January the facility has been effectively

abandoned, waiting for a new home and around $1 million to fund the move. It's pretty dis heartening not knowing the

future of it, knowing we need

money that can't be raised easily by sell tickets or nixth San amount that we think either big

business or preferably the Government, ACT Government, ACT or Federal Government, perhaps

Government, perhaps the education portfolio of education portfolio of the Federal Government would be the most appropriate one. The effort is very much effort and we'd like to have as many people as many people as possible involved. So that includes sponsor sponsors from industry,

companies that are interested in attract ing young people into science and technology. So this is the area that we

put the planetarium. If you look here, you will see the 74-inch Dome. It was completely

burnt out during the bushfires in 2003, it's been re in 2003, it's been re repaint so but it's not useable as a

telescope. To the right is our visitors an exhibition area and room for a cafe and we're a cafe and we're working very hard to be able that open that

cafe again for the public. That should happen in

should happen in the course of the coming hope. If you turn the other way, then you can look out and

see over all of Canberra, spectacular views especially in

the evening. That's why we think that that would be excellent place to put a public facility such facility such as a planetarium. If the deal isn't funded, the ANU says it will still push ahead with its

vision for a planetarium but realising that may take some time. Supporters the Downer Dome are sick of twaith Dome are sick of twaith game

and desperate ly hoping for some Federal Government generosity. generosity. Dreadful, really, really sad. This is my baby. It's so sad to see baby. It's so sad to see such a magnificent piece of equipment

not being used and nobody

not being used and nobody coming here anymore and it's -

nine months, 10 months down the track since we've closed and it just - it's a think, you know. I just want to

get it up and going again.

And the Stromlo connection continues now - Australia has a new Chief new Chief Scientist, and she was the director of the Mount Stromlo Observatory. She also led its

the fire . Professor Penny Sackett is an internationally

renowned astronomer, but how did a kid from Nebraska develop an interest in science and rise to the top of her field? Gordon Taylor met with her at Stromlo. It's an interesting question. I think I

was always interested in science even before I knew it was

was called that. But in secondary school I had a wonderful physics teacher who made me understand made me understand that physics was about everything in the world around you and that's

when my passion for physics ignite ed ignite ed quite against my expectation because I had heard

that physics was about pullies an liver, which didn't excite me at the time. Let's institution that you've led

Stromlo where we are course it was only one year into your term here and the

disastrous 2003 bushfires hit and wiped out the place. How much of a you? It was you? It was a complete shock, complete and utter shock. Of course the fires had been

burning for many days before that time. But I think it's fair to say that none of fair to say that none of us expected that they could travel that quickly in fact. We that quickly in fact. We had imagined and had understood from reports that they wouldn't be able to reach the mountain until the Monday if they were to come in this direction to come in this direction at all. And in fact as you know they arrived on the Saturday afternoon and the devastation was much beyond what a typical bushfire would be. It was Jendownly a fire storm Jendownly a fire storm that engulfed Stromlo and most parts

of - many parts of Canberra.

It was a loss although not as much as you might expect. It was an emotional time. But most of the data was saved, though the telescopes were lost. The staff are of an extremely high calibre and they had international collaborations that could collaborations that could help them continue. Actually it's amazing that directly after the fires and in the years after that the publication that the publication rate

actually went up. I think it's a tremendous testament to the will of the staff here and also

their talent. I think there was didn't want to let the didn't want to let the fire make more of a difference it had to. Yet you were back at Mount Stromlo within three week pros deucing work. We were. At the time you wrote an open letter to staff and letter to staff and tlos the broader Canberra community thanking them for their efforts. How important was that

Canberra community in re-establishing the scientific

work at Mount Stromlo? It was extremely important. Financial support in a variety of ways,

assistance to emotion ally support staff, and importantly just being interested in what happened to us - making us feel like we were part of a community and it mattered. It mattered to Canberra mattered to Canberra what happened to Mount think that was actually very,

very important to people. The biggest project biggest project you've been

working on of late is the Giant Magellan tele scope, which the world's

the world's largest telescope to be built in Chile. What will that allow us to do scientifically? You're right. It will be the largest optical telescope in the world when it's finished, we expect. it's finished, we expect. That

opens up an enormous range of

possibilities. It will allow us to look at the first objects

that lit up the universe , so the very

the very first star, the very first quais arse. It will a - quais ars, it will allow us look at very faint

objects orbitting around the stars and whether or not our own solar system is unique or possibilities in astronomy, how does it feel to be leaving area of research and becoming

not a bureaucrat but a science politician? I don't politician? I don't know what term to use, but certainly not at the cutting edge

anymore. Well, it's true that I have to leave behind much

the science I've been doing. The post is a full-time post of Chief Scientist but to let go a little bit of to let go a little bit of the cutting edge of think there's a gain in being closer to the cut ing edge of

many other disciplines as I interact with the fabulous researchers across Australia to get their input into get their input into the issues of central importance to

Australia. It's a little bit like a child that I will be able to taste that I will be able to taste a

little bit of all the different wonderful flavours of science

in Australia. Science is a rational discipline. You put up a paradigm, you test it against

the evidence and based on that evidence you either accept or reject the paradigm. Do you think you can new role when

in as well? It's certainly possible to possible to gather the evidence, scientifically, to put the case that case may include some uncertainty, things where scientists are

things where scientists are still not of a mind. But I don't think that should in any way affect the ability of

office of the Chief Scientist to put forward that advice to

Government. And finally, Penny, your new job keeps you in Canberra. You will continue to be engaged with the Canberra community, which has given you a lot. But do you ever miss the brighter lights of elsewhere or do you think do you think you will be staying here for some time? No. Or if I had those thoughts I took up I took up this post. This

really represents a decision that this is where I am very pleased to live. I find Canberra actual lay delightful place to live and it's a place that I hope I can make contribution and a

difference. By popular demand and in case you missed them

and in case you missed them last week, we're going to show you our Canberra ads again, plus a new one. We asked leading production houses to

come up with their promotions

for Canberra as a tourist destination. With tongues in

cheeks, here is the first. It by Silversun pictures and it's

a combination of Baz Luhrmann's Would you like to hear Would you like to hear a story? What there's a girl... and there's there's a girl... and there's a sort of... and there's a big... plague of zombies. Anyway,

story takes place in a, um,... at a far away

Very funny. And now for a slightly but only slightly more serious approach from Bearcage. This one takes the theme - This one takes the theme - we should more effectively target

the tourists and not waste time enticing people who won't here anyway. Here it is.

Canberra - it's not for everyone. But a love for place

prompted Wendy Breakwell to use her own money to finance Neon Productions to make an ad. And she's deadly serious. She wants to attract and keep young people to the city. She's hoping the relevant authorities take it up. In the meantime, see what you think. And I will

see you next week.

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