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Tony Jones talks to ABC reporter Anne Barker -

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TONY JONES: Well, joining us now from the East Timor capital is the ABC's Anne Barker. Anne, you
obviously mentioned there it was calm when you did that piece to camera it remained so, I take it?

ANNE BARKER: It is Tony. It's very calm tonight. If you didn't know what had happened this morning
you wouldn't think that there was anything amiss. Earlier, before darkness, there were a lot of
groups on the street. People were clearly talking about what had happened. And there are very mixed
feelings. A lot of worry about what this will mean for East Timor. A lot of shock and a lot of
sadness. But certainly relief that neither leader was killed. But overall it is very calm and the
security forces here are hoping it will stay that way.

TONY JONES: How could East Timor's key political leaders be so vulnerable?

ANNE BARKER: Well I think it's a sign of, in one sense, it's the sign of the standing that they had
in the community here. The fact that they are very popular, both Xanana Gusmao and Jose Ramos Horta
and they never believed that this could happen to them. If you come here for any length of time you
know that Jose Ramos Horta for example goes for a morning walk along the beach front almost every
day and he goes out without any real obvious security. Now certainly there are security forces with
him, but he makes himself a very easy target. But I guess never believed this might happen to him.
And likewise, Xanana Gusmao was often out. You would see him in very large crowds when there were
things happening. He enjoys enormous popularity and I don't think many people would have ever
believed again that this could happen to him either.

TONY JONES: Anne, we've just heard Australia's Foreign Minister Stephen Smith say that Australian
troops will be involved in rounding up the remaining rebels, given that the leader Reinado has,
it's confirmed that he's been killed by the Federal Police. Do you think they are going to meet

ANNE BARKER: Well, look there's every chance that they could. Obviously this morning's incident
shows they are prepared to put up a big fight for what they want. There was an incident only a week
or so ago where they were shooting at Australian soldiers. I believe Alfredo Reinado does have
about 20 or more supporters at least. Many of whom are also on the run in the bush. And they're
obviously going to want to evade capture. But without a leader you have to wonder, just what chance
they do have of that happening now.

TONY JONES: OK, Anne Barker, thanks very much for joining us. No doubt we will be hearing from you
again tomorrow.