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ABC Environment reporter Sarah Clarke joins the studio from the Copenhagen Conference to discuss
the latest from the summit.


LEIGH SALES, PRESENTER: China's position at Copenhagen is one of the key sticking points. Let's
cross to the summit now to get the latest from the ABC's environment reporter Sarah Clarke on
whether a breakthrough is looking likely or not.

Sarah, can you paint a picture for us of what's happening there at the moment?

SARAH CLARKE, ENVIRONMENT REPORTER: It's been an extraordinary morning here. We've got a flurry of
leaders coming in and out of meetings behind me and earlier it was a completely different story.
The meeting convened at 10 o'clock this morning for two hours. Delegations milled around, they were
texting, some were falling asleep, there were a number of world leaders actually there, including
Kevin Rudd, China, but there was no sign of Obama at that stage and as Margot O'Neill said in her
story, he was convening a high-level meeting elsewhere. But now we've just had President Obama,
he's hopped up and he's spoken on the floor and he's basically suggested that the US is here to
talk of collective action. He said, "The question is no longer the capacity of the challenge, it's
how we meet it." He's basically said that the ability to take collective action here is in doubt
and today the United States wants something, some sort of an agreement. So there's some promising
signs there, but he's indicated it's still in doubt.

LEIGH SALES: Well, fine words, Sarah, but practically, where are the negotiations at?

SARAH CLARKE: Practically, we're still having these backroom meetings in the final hours. I mean,
this afternoon we were meant to have the national statements delivered by the world leaders
throughout today. This hasn't happened. They're two hours behind already. They've had China,
they've had the United States up on the floor, but there are so many other countries who have to
deliver their positions. Now the United Nations has said that the deadline this afternoon is 4
o'clock - that's the first deadline. The second deadline is 6 pm. And tomorrow we've got another
meeting scheduled here, another completely different meeting, so we have to be out of this
conference by 6 pm tonight. That might suggest that we have to move elsewhere, the negotiators have
to move to hotels elsewhere to try and get something through, otherwise there won't be an

LEIGH SALES: And Sarah, is that possible, that they would actually try to continue the meeting on
somewhere else? At what point will they just pull up stumps?

SARAH CLARKE: Oh, look, I think anything's a possibility here at the moment the way these things
are going - this meeting is going. But certainly, last night when they convened, the leaders did
leave and leave their negotiators to pick up the pieces. I'm sure that could be the same situation
today. But we do have to be out of this meeting, as I said, by 6 pm tonight - or midnight tonight -
but the deadline that the UN has set is 6 pm, so it's not looking good at this stage.

LEIGH SALES: Alright. Well we'll keep an eye on it and hopefully, Sarah, we'll be able to
turnaround a clip of that speech by President Obama and bring that to our viewers here, but we'll
leave it there with you. Thank you very much.