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Kevin Rudd is in New York ahead of a G20 meeting at the end of the week. There he has talked
tactics with the former US president Bill Clinton, while his Climate Change Minister has flagged a
solution to entice developing nations to sign on to a deal at Copenhagen. In Canberra, government
insiders say if the emissions trading scheme is defeated again in November, they will have
'virtually no choice' but to pull the double dissolution trigger.

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TONY JONES, PRESENTER: The Federal Government is pressing its case for a deal on climate change,
both internationally and at home.

Kevin Rudd is in New York ahead of a G20 meeting at the end of the week.

Meanwhile in Canberra, Government insiders say if the emissions trading scheme is defeated again in
November, they'll have virtually no choice but to pull the double dissolution trigger.

North America correspondent Lisa Millar reports from New York.

LISA MILLAR, REPORTER: Far from the hectic pace of Manhattan, Kevin Rudd relaxed over breakfast
with the former US President in upstate New York. The French cafe is a favourite of Mr Clinton's.
In English, it means 'The King's Garden', and it was here that these two leaders put climate change
on the menu. Mr Rudd will take part in Bill Clinton's global initiative this week, just one of the
many sessions being held in New York to tackle global warming, world poverty and the recession.

The Prime Minister went straight from breakfast to church, sounding upbeat about the early morning
discussions.

KEVIN RUDD, PRIME MINISTER: Always good to catch up with Bill. He's always got some ideas on the
future.

LISA MILLAR: The talks this week, both in New York and Pittsburgh, when the G20 meet, are seen as
the groundwork for Copenhagen in December. Australia is proposing giving the developing world more
flexibility to meet its goals on cutting greenhouse emissions.

KEVIN RUDD (on CNN): Time is running out, but I believe if we see action from the developed and the
developings, we can get there.

LISA MILLAR: Critics at home say it would only weaken whatever global deal might come in Denmark.

BOB BROWN, GREENS LEADER: The risk is that we get an appallingly weak agreement and, worse, that it
locks us into inaction, instead of the action that's required now.

JULIE BISHOP, ACTING OPPOSITION LEADER: This highlights the madness of Australia locking into an
emissions trading scheme without knowing what the rest of the world will do. Our concern is that to
lock into an emissions trading scheme now, with the design put forward by the Labor Government,
will cost jobs, will send industries offshore and will harm our economy without reducing global
greenhouse gas emissions.

LISA MILLAR: There's an expectation that Kevin Rudd will help produce results here this week; he's
moderating one of the sessions and tomorrow meets one-on-one with the UN Secretary General Ban
Ki-moon ahead of the climate talks starting the next day.

Tonight, though, he dined with Rupert Murdoch, who was asked for his thoughts on the Australian
economy.

RUPERT MURDOCH, MEDIA MAGNATE: Seems pretty good.

LISA MILLAR: But Kevin Rudd knows there's still work to be done on the health of the global
economy.

KEVIN RUDD: How do we craft a long-term economic growth strategy which is sustainable for the
world, no longer dependent on these massive financial imbalances, huge debt-driven consumption on
the one hand, out of surplus economies on the other. We need a new, sustainable growth model for
the future. Otherwise, we may be looking at the prospect of flat global growth for a while to come.

LISA MILLAR: And that's the message he'll be delivering at the G20 as the only leader of a country
not in recession. Lisa Millar, Lateline.