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And that's the news to this minute. The '7:30 Report' is next, at 8:30pm. and I'll be back with a news update For now, goodnight. International Pty Ltd Captioning and Subtitling Closed Captions provided by

This program is captioned live. Welcome to the program. the exact numbers of course, There'll be arguments about 500,000 people turned out but the ACTU is claiming more than across Australia, 200,000 of them in Melbourne alone, to protest against controversial workplace laws. the Federal Government's

For the first time, they were linked across Australia and joint screens. via satellite television impact on the Government's resolve But will it be enough to have any and can it be sustained? Heather Ewart reports. CHANTING

We will hold the government to

account for the human cost of these

laws. They defied,

laws. They defied overcost skies,

cold winds and threats of penalties

from their employers. Workers and

industrial relations overhaul, those opposed to the government's

turned up in their thousands in

Melbourne this morning for what

organisers claim is the largest

national young rally in Australian

history. The crowds were a mixture

of union die-hards, young and old,

and some who'd never been to rally

like this in their lives. This is

one way for all of us here to

demonstrate our opposition against

Howard and his attacks on workers.

We all need to protest as strongly Howard and his attacks on workers.

as possible. REPORTER: Is this the

kind f action you'd normally

participate in? Not usually.

Worried about future of our kids

more than anything else. Looking

a fair go for everyone. It won't more than anything else. Looking for

worry me too much for my working

future but will certainly worry our

children. We will campaign for as

long Aspinall hard as it takes to

overturn these laws and anyone who

thinks our campaign will fade away,

had better think again. CHEERING

For the ACTU the planning has gone

on for five months and in his

early this morning, ACTU secretary on for five months and in his office

Greg Combet was anxious it might

come unstuck because of wild storms Greg Combet was anxious it might all

overnight. As he walked through the

CBD at 7.30, just an hour before

rally was set to start, streets CBD at 7.30, just an hour before the

largely deserted. Are you worried rally was set to start, streets were

about the weather? Will that put

people off? Had a few restless

moments last night when it was

pouring down in Melbourne. That

want deter people. Fortunately the

rain is holding off at the moment.

Do you feel like this is a make or

break time for the union movement,

is this your last big hoorah?

That honestly isn't the motivation

with this. We actually care about

the society and what sort of

it is. Once at Federation Square the society and what sort of society

scene of the rally to be broadcast it is. Once at Federation Square the

nationally by satellite, the huge

turnout predicted was still not in

evidence. Well, it's only just not

even 8 o'clock yet. No, a lot of

people will be rolling in. Worried

about the weather, but we'll be

alright. If it doesn't hold off,

what then? We go ahead. I mean this,

is a national broadcast, too, that

we're doing here. It will be sunny

somewhere in Australia. The rain

hold off. The record crowds did somewhere in Australia. The rain did

finally pour in and, yes, it was

sunny elsewhere in Australia. This

was a slick, high-tech production

put together by the team that

created the union movement's highly

successful advert campaign.

Australia has had an industrial

relations system... The Melbourne

rally and pre-recorded inserts were

beamed out to 300 venues around the

country. From Darwin's Fanny Bay

Turf Club down to Tasmania's

Glenorchy Football Club, the ACTU

estimates an audience of around 550,

550,000 participated. It was text estimates an audience of around

become marketing. It's a modern use

of media and they're acting like a

modern marketer. They've got the

ACTU brand to look after and these

sorts of methods are perfectly

to pursue their brand. It is very sorts of methods are perfectly valid

important for the union movement to

impact on the electorate and

no doubt that today's rally will impact on the electorate and there's

help in that regard. Well, I think

it has an impact of itself. It's an

event and will get a lot of

publicity, but if you want to

the government's view about publicity, but if you want to change

workplace relations reform I don't

think it will have any impact at

all. The government has already

it won't, but that's not what all. The government has already said

today's rally was all about. The

ACTU sees it as a launching pad to

woo swinging voters at the next

election and at lest one leading

pollster says the Prime Minister

should not ignore the signals.

I think it's still relatively early

days, but there's no doubt with the

Prime Minister's satisfaction beg

only four in 10, and that compares

with six in 10 at the beginning of

this year, that there's something

affecting popularity with the Prime

Minister and I think the major ish

slew would in fact be industrial

relations. I think the Howard

Government need to listen to

people's expressions, but I think

they also have to have confidence

that the package they are putting

forward is right and has the

of many employers. How to interpret forward is right and has the support

who is winning or losing the public

campaign so far, especially after

today's nationwide rallies, could

well bill down to which side you're

on. In everything there's all the

swinging voter, the person who's

willing to be persuaded one way or

the other, but in the main, what

happens in these instances is one's

prejudices are simply reinforced.

As well, Newspoll Sol Lebovic

out there were similar protests As well, Newspoll Sol Lebovic points

against the GST and the Gulf War

the Howard Government went on to against the GST and the Gulf War and

elections. But the trade union the Howard Government went on to win

Movement detects a difference this

time. This is not like the GST or

the Iraq war. This is something

will be felt for a long time to the Iraq war. This is something that

come. This will change the society.

It won't be too difficult

It won't be too difficult sustaining our campaign from that point of

view. SONG: # Careful what you

view. SONG: # Careful what you are now # The call went out to all of

those attending today to give

generously to keep the campaign

rolling along right up to election

day two years away. The ACTU is

buoyed by the huge response to its

nationwide hook-up, but unless that

translates into a change in

government, the workplace reforms

look set to stay. SONG: # Be

careful what you pray for # That report from Heather Ewart. When new Telstra boss Sol Trujillo took over the reins of THE telco giant in July,

his brief was to revitalise the company in preparation for the Government's planned sale of its remaining 51% stake. Since then, the value of that stake has dropped 13%. Today, after a 4-month review, Mr Trujillo announced a major restructure of Telstra, one which involves the loss of up to 12,000 jobs over the next five years and a massive investment in new networks which will help deliver bigger profit margins.

If the pitch was at least partly designed to impress shareholders, the connection didn't go through because the share price actually fell 7%. Finance editor Emma Alberici reports.

Trujillo tu has answered the call,

fixed loins are out, wireless

technology is in and the customer

technology is in and the customer is king. We're going to be focussed

king. We're going to be focussed on a new customer experience. So it's

about when you call us, it's about

the product usage, it's about your

bill, it's about when you have a

problem... For Telstra's new chief

today's big bang presentation in a

packed conference centre on

packed conference centre on Sydney's waterfront was a chance to outline

his vision for Australia's biggest

Telco. There's no company anywhere

in this country that touches more

people. This country also touches

people. This country also touches as many shareholders as any other

company... 30kms away in a quiet

suburban study, a self-funded

retiree was thinking about his own

future as he watched Sol Trujillo

strut the stage.

strut t. I've got about 11,000

shares within the various family

portfolios. We bout them for growth

because it was the Australian thing

to do, to own shares in Telstra.

Bruce Bond bought his Telstra

Bruce Bond bought his Telstra Shires when he was working as a

high-profile finance adviser.

Nowadays he spends his time with

Nowadays he spends his time with the grandchildren lamenting what's

become of a once great company.

Well, I think management has lost

the plot. They have a great

organisation, a great company, but

they haven't looked into the future

and that's going to be - I hope,

and that's going to be - I hope, and I really hope, that the decision is

made in the next 6-12 months pay

off, but I have my doubts. He's not

the only one with doubts about the

results of Sol Trujillo's so-called

strategic review. A move to new

technologies which requires a

massive investment. $10 billion

massive investment. $10 billion over five years. In reality, it's only a

couple of billion more than what

couple of billion more than what was already earmarked to be spent on

upgrading the networks. All in all,

today' announcement sounded

remarkably familiar, probably

because we'd heard it all before

from the former management. This

time, though, it comes with a more

ambitious timetable. Finally in

terms of fro cash flow by 2010

terms of fro cash flow by 2010 we'll looking at the range of $6-20

billion in terms of free cash

generated in the business. We've

generated in the business. We've got a recommendation on Telstra. We've

had that recommendation for 12

months and at this stage I see

nothing that will make me change

that. What's your price target then?

What price do you think the share

also hit? We've get a price target

of $3.81 which we've had for a

while. Lower than it's ever got

before? It is lower than it's ever

get before and in fact I suspect

we'll get to that price target

pretty soon after this announcement.

That startling prediction despite

some very aggressive cost cutting.

The headline The headline

The headliner 1

The headliner 10-12,000 jobs to go

over the next five years. People

have get a right to be very, very

cynical about today's announcement.

They're entitled to think this is

just a part of a short-term

just a part of a short-term strategy to get a bounce in the share price

so the government gets a return on

its wrong-headed proposal to fully

privatise Telstra. But a quarter of

Telstra's staff aren't going to

Telstra's staff aren't going to walk for nothing. Redundancy costs will

see earnings drop even lower than

previously forecast. In August, Sol

Trujillo said this year's profit

would be down 10%. Now it's likely

to be as much as 25%, but if you

believe in the management there is

some relief in 2010. Margins are

some relief in 2010. Margins are set to agree from 48 to 52%. Analysts

to agree from 48 to 52%. Analysts at today's meeting just didn't believe

the maths. Telstra's margins are

already world's best. For them to

already world's best. For them to go up, is a big leap of faith. All of

today's financial forecasts came

with a big maybe in very small

with a big maybe in very small print at the bottom of each slide.

Cautioning that the figures were

subject to reasonable regulatory

outcomes. What that means is

anyone's guess, but what is fairly

clees is that Telstra's Mexican

stand-off with the government isn't

going to be resolved to the

satisfaction of Sol Trujillo.

Telstra is going to be forced to

provide competitors with access to

its network as a price it won't be

setting and won't be happy with.

Telstra will continue that fight,

but will it win? No. Our strategy

really isn't depend ent upon these

regulatory decisions. When I say

that I mean it in the sense of

transitioning the company to be

highly customer focussed. And then there's the bush.

there's the bush where network and

technological changes are on the

way. We've got to make sure that

promise and delivery become the

promise and delivery become the same thing. National Senator Barnaby

Joyce is worried it all might be

slight of hand. Within three years

the relatively new CDMA Network,

which services 1.4 million Telstra

mobile customers in rural and

regional areas, will be shut down

and replaced with whiz-bang 3 GSM.

With the massive job cuts there

With the massive job cuts there will be a few less humans manning rural

Australia and that wasn't spelt out

before Barnaby Joyce finally bit

before Barnaby Joyce finally bit the bullet on the Senate vote for full

privatision. There was no

privatision. There was no discussion about the loss of 12,000 jobs

about the loss of 12,000 jobs before we made the decision on the Telstra

sale legislation. I'm a bit

sceptical about whether that

knowledge was out there or not.

knowledge was out there or not. They say it wasn't - that that decision

hadn't been finalised. Once more,

hadn't been finalised. Once more, it comes down to a statement they made

and I suppose I have to accept it

and I suppose I have to accept it or not. It took 4.5 months to plan and

a mar shone five hours to present

and the big jaw-dropping moment was

Sol Trujillo's extraordinary Google

schmoogle claim that Telstra's

schmoogle claim that Telstra's onlin services through the directory

business would be better than

Googles, arguably the global

benchmark. It's an amazing

benchmark. It's an amazing boast,

after all Sol Trujillo's vantage

point in America was just a little

Australian Telco before he took on

the big job in July. Is this a

growth stock or income stom? At the

moment it's an income stock and 6

moment it's an income stock and 6 or 6.5% tax paid with dividend

impewtation or most of the tax paid

is a very nice return and better

than what you'd receive in a bank.

Bruce Bond's attitude is one shared

by most of Telstra's 1.7 million

shareholders and it is what will

ultimately support the share price.

The management have guaranteed the

dividend for three years. But as

dividend for three years. But as far as I'm kernd, we're going to hold

as I'm kernd, we're going to hold on to ours, we'll review the situation

over the next 6-12 months. The one

question Sol Trujillo wasn't asked

today was this: will he be there

today was this: will he be there in 2010 when the strategy targets need

to be met? It is always easy to

to be met? It is always easy to make predictions you're not the one

predictions you're not the one who's going to have to see them out.

Finance editor Emma Alberici with that report. Now to a major development in a story we first brought you two years ago. The High Court today overturned an 11-year-old murder conviction sending the case of West Australian Andrew Mallard back for retrial. The court found that significant evidence had been withheld from the jury in 1994 and criticised both the prosecution and the WA Supreme Court of Appeal. It's the latest in a series of controversial cases in the west which have been overturned. Mick O'Donnell reports.

In 1994 Mallard, a young Perth man

with a history of psychiatric

problems was convicted of the

problems was convicted of the murder of Pamela Lawrence in Perth. She

of Pamela Lawrence in Perth. She had been struck repeatedly in the head

but the murder weapon was never

found. 5pm on 2 3rd May in Mosman

Park, did you kill Pamela Lawrence?

No. Andrew Mallard has maintained

its innocence twice sub mitting to

lie detector tests. This one was

arranged by Perth newspaper

journalist Colleen Egan. He passed

with flying colours. There was a

second test done under a court

-colled environment and he passed

that one as well. Colleen Egan has

been victiming the case for seven

years, help

years, helping uncover new evidence.

We believe the case against him,

We believe the case against him, now everything is in front of us, shows

that it is not possible for him to

have exited that crime, just on

usual bone fide evidence, not a lie

detector test. While the WA Supreme

Court did consider the poll graph

evidence, it rejected the appeal.

But today the High Court finally

provided relief to Mallard and his

family. It's been an emotional

rollercoaster for so long over many

years and I'm glad it's ended.

The High Court overturned all of

The High Court overturned all of the previous judgements against him.

And they all came to see there had

been an injustice and this was

been an injustice and this was wrong and something had to be done.

Jackie Mallard video taped this

first poll graph session in a Perth

jail. I really am telling the truth.

What people do believe. The High

Court today found that the original

prosecution had withheld

prosecution had withheld significant evidence from the jury, such as a

police scientist's doubts over the

murder weapon. What we do know is

that the jury never knew it and the

judge never knew it and certainly

the defendant never knew it. The

High Court was highly critical of several police interviews with

Andrew Mallard. One was convibed

over eight hours in a psychiatric

hospital. Another after Mallard had

been bashed by another man outside

been bashed by another man outside a nightclub and had had little slope.

Despite the fact that those

interviews took place in an office

with video recording equipment was

never explained why "record" was

never pressed on that. Andrew

Mallard alleges detectives set him

up by getting him to draw a

hypothetical sketch of the murder

scene. Why did you draw a plan of

the shop? Because that's what the

detectives told me to do. One put a

pistol in my face in the car and

another -- Is that right? Yes, I

can describe the pistol. A third

police interview was videoed but in

it Mallard talked about the

it Mallard talked about the murderer in the third person. They claimed

this was a confession. It's a

bizarre video where he says he

bizarre video where he says he wants to clear his name and talks about

his theory, conjection, of what he

thinks the killer might have done,

thinking he's being helpful but

really he was a man who was very

vulnerable mentally and

unfortunately I think that was

unfortunately I think that was taken advantage of. Did you at any stage

confess to the police that you

killed Pamela Lawrence? No. The

killed Pamela Lawrence? No. The High Court has sent the case back for

retrial but says the director of

public prosecutions may choose to

drop it given there are new laws of

evidence. Unless there are special

circumstances, exceptional

circumstances, unrecorded interview

also not be admitted as proof of

confessions. But the DPP Robert

confessions. But the DPP Robert Cock refused to rule out a retrial.

I haven't decided yet whether there

won't be a retrial or not, but at

the moment obviously I'd need to

speak to the witnesses who are

available to see whether they still

recollect matters spoken of at the

original trial. I'd then need to

consider public interest

considerations, the principal ones

being the amount of time this man

has spent in custody, the views of

the victims' family, the views of

the police and other factors, like

the lengthy of time since the

offence occurred. West Australian

police declined to comment on the

case. Andrew Mallard remains in

prison, pending a bail application

likely next week. We feel a sense

likely next week. We feel a sense of justification and vindication.

We told him at the end of the High

Court appeal, the prospects were

good so it wasn't a shock, but he

certainly was very pleased. Mick O'Donnell reporting. As Iraq prepares for its all-important National Assembly elections next month, President Jalal Talabani has predicted that British and American troops could begin withdrawing by late next year. That prediction is based on the hope that Iraq will be then able to defend itself against an insurgency that has more than doubled its attacks within the past 12 months. If that does happen, will it silence the critics of America's and its allies' intervention in Iraq, who've painted the war as a foreign policy disaster? One of those critics was Chris Patten, former senior British Conservative Minister

in the Thatcher and Major years. Then Hong Kong Governor, European Commissioner and now a life peer. He's in Australia to promote his book, "Not Quite a Diplomat", and I spoke with him in Melbourne. Chris Patten, the British Defence Secretary has cautiously embraced the Iraqi President's suggestion that British troops could be out of Iraq by the end of next year. As a critic of Britain's and America's intervention in Iraq, are you now somewhat heartened

by the optimism of the Iraqi Government, at least, that they are working to a workable independent democracy? Well, I hope so.

Even though I was a critic of the invasion and even though if I had known what was going to happen I'd have been an even bigger critic, there's no point in any of us dancing on coffins. There's no point in any of us simply saying, "I told you so." We all have to deal with the consequences. If we are going to see a functioning Iraq state democratic plural with the Kurds and the Sunnis and the Shi'ia all lying down happily together, terrific. I think my worry, and the worry of other people, is we blow away Saddam Hussein is nothing but a good thing, but that we've risked blowing up Iraq in the process

with all sorts of consequences for the region. So, I hope that the British Defence Secretary and the Iraqi Prime Minister are correct. I'll just say one thing - I'm a great critic of the war

and even though I think it's done incalculable damage to the ability and future of governments to use force pre-emptively when there is a real threat, I haven't been one of those who think we should simply pull the troops out.

In your book you talk about Iraq policy being made over the heads of the British Foreign Office and the US State Department. What do you mean by that and what was the effect? In Washington, plainly, Colin Powell was cut out of the action and anybody who might have offered a few words of caution actually Colin Powell - if anybody knew about invasions and the use of the military, it was him, but he was sidelined by the assertive Nationalists, by Mr Cheney and Mr Rumsfeld on the one hand and what General Powell reportedly called the "f-ing crazies" on the other, the neocons. In Britain, I think Mr Blair, who has great charm, overestimates his abilities on the international stage. You can't charm people out of their own view of their national interest and certainly I don't think he ever had the detailed grasp of the issues that one might have liked. I think he saw the whole issue simply through the prism of what he believed should be Britain's relationship with the United States, an ally partner who asks no questions, but was prepared to act as No. 1 spear carrier

and No. 1 explainer of America's intentions to Europe's wimps and I think that was fatal and led him into a posture which lost him the most important attribute in politics

in any country, that is the benefit of the doubt as far as the electorate is concerned. Have the London bombings changed your views on Britain's involvement in the war on terror in any way, shape or form? No, they haven't. Largely - if you don't mind me putting it this way - largely because I've never really seen it as a "war on terror".

I don't think you have wars on proper nouns. I think all of us will find ourselves for the next as far ahead as we can see dealing with those who can create mayhem by using technology to murder, kill, maim people. I've spent much of my life dealing with Irish terrorism. Most recently reorganising the police service in Northern Ireland as part of the Belfast Agreement. I'm not remotely one of those who thinks that you can fudge the distinction between terrorist violence and legitimate political action. You have to try to understand what motivates terrorism. I do think you have to try to understand and deal with the sense of alienation which creates an environment in which terrorists operate. You're critical of George Bush's foreign policy, but you're not one of those, it seems, who questions his intellectual capacity on your meetings with him. You say in the book after meeting Mr Bush several times that you not only found him very confident of what he was about and what he was saying and doing and so on, you never found yourself disliking the man. You say, "It is usually easier in politics if you dislike the person "as well as the words, "so I guess I feel more comfortable with Vice-President Cheney." Quite so. Why do you dislike Dick Cheney? I think he gives conservatism a bad name. Why do you dislike Dick Cheney? I think he gives conservatism a bad name. I think he associates conservatism with making rich people even richer,

with more perks for the corporate world, with the most assertive sorts of nationalism. If you look at things - the arguments at the moment, America 2001 had the huge sympathy of the world after the attacks on New York and Washington. Now, three years down the road, four years down the road, we see the Administration, particularly Vice-President Cheney, trying to prevent Senator McCain writing into American law the fact that Americans don't torture each other. So America is on the back foot on human rights issues. America, which stood for and argued for Helsinki and the sort of approach to human rights which eventually helped us sink the Soviet Union. How have they got themselves into this mess? They've got themselves into this mess because of that implaccable ultra-conservative presence at President Bush's right hand and I think that it's a pity that the President doesn't listen more to his father and less to Vice-President Cheney. As you look around the world,

how many leaders can you say you actually admire? Well, it's a very good question. Of the ones that I've met, I worked for one - I didn't always agree with her - but I worked for one Margaret Thatcher, whom I admired, because she did combine a sense of ideas and principles with the ability to get things done. I admired Zhu Rongji, not because I admired China's human rights record, but because he seemed to me to be a colossol bulldozer of a politician. I greatly admired, in Europe, Chancellor Kohl because he had that political ability to know when politicians have a really historic decision

and to get that decision right. I think he was almost single-handedly responsible for - well, with Gorbachev for German unification and the three people that have most charmed me have all been black - have all been Nelson Mandela and Kofi Annan and Colin Powell, all of whom have that combination of grace and authority, which is what charisma actually means. I think Colin Powell is a slightly tragic figure because of the way he became -

because of the way he was used by the Administration which he served. In Europe at the moment, I have to say that I think we draw pretty much of a blank when it comes to great leaders. Chris Patten, thanks very much for talking with us. Thank you very much.

And that's the program for tonight. We'll be back at the same time tomorrow, but for now, goodnight. Closed Captions produced by Captioning and Subtitling International Pty Ltd

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