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Grand Final. Thanks, Mike.

Before we go, another quick

look at the stories making news

tonight. The head of the

oil-for-food inquiry is

considering terrorism charges

against senior AWB employees

over millions of dollars

funneled z to Saddam Hussein's

regime. The Federal Government

has announced the timetable for

the next stage of the Telstra sell-off. The Papua New Guinea

Government says Australia is

over reacting to reports of

mining exploration near the

Kokoda Track. It has promise

that had the area will not be

harmed. And that's ABC News

for this Friday. I'm Juanita

Phillips. Stateline with

Quentin Dempster is up next and

'Lateline' is along just before

10.40. Goodnight. Captions by Captioning and

Subtitling This program is captioned live.

This week - the F word -

failure. Should it be rused at

school? We still don't have

any clear indication of how the

Government is going to address

telling parents where your

child is failing. Also how is

this for a life - 27 years old

and living at home with nothing

to leave for. And an attack on the Federal Government from an

un expected quarter. As for

English being a prerequisite

for sit zenship, you are on the

wrong track. Welcome.

Welcome to Stateline. Whatever

happens, nobody use the F word.

F for "failed" when it comes to

marking the performance of

schoolchildren. There has been

a lot of wedge politics on the

educational achievement of the State's schoolchildren H at one

stage, the Federal Government

threatened the State's funding

for education if it didn't

introduce an unequivocal or more decisive marking sis tex

which parents could understand.

Prem Morris Iemma deflected the

wedge by saying he couldn't

understand his own children's

school reports and that his

government was already working

on designing a plain-English

marking system. The New South

Wales A to E report card was

the result. It was met with

howls of protest from primary

and secondary school principals

concerned about the humiliation

or de motivation of children.

This week, Education Minister

Carmel Tebbutt announced a

compromise - schools could use

both A to E or softer

descriptors, and other

educational issues have been

raised, but first, don't

mention the F word. It's very

clear. It's honest to parents.

It tells parent fs their

children are having trouble at

school. Education Minister

Carmel Tebbutt flanked by Sue

Ingram, primary principals and

Jim McAlpine, secondary

principals, announced her

compromise to try to settle the

dispute over the Iemma

Government's new A to E marking system in all New South Wales

schools. It was the Federal

Government that mandated using

A to E. Now with the change in

federal minister, there was a

loosening up around the use of

the term nom ji A to E and that

gave us more flexibility.

We've responded to that. The

Federal Government rejected our

previous plan. They threatened

our $3.7 billion worth of

funding. In response, we've

now developed this approach.

Federal Education Minister

Julie Bishop has inched Kated

she will approve the

compromise. Federal money will

flow. Schools will be given a

choice to report student

achievement or to prominently

highlight word zripor s

instead.

This is all pussyfooting

around, minister, isn't it?

What neither you nor the

Federal Government is doing is

confronting kids with their

failings. Why not F for

failure? This very clearly

gives parents the sort of

information they want. You've

got to remember that the

student report is one part of a

way a school communicates with

parents. Obviously discussion

with the teacher is important.

We have the basic skills tests

as well in years 3 and 5, but

these new reports outline very

clearly for parentings if their

child is doing well or if there

are concerns. If your child

has an E or limited and there

is a description of what that

means, then you know that there

are issues for your child and

you need to talk to your

teacher about how to work

through the issues. In the

good old days, if you got an F

for failure, you realised you

had to pull your socks up, as

it were. We don't do that

anymore because we are too

concerned about the self-esteem

of the child. No, I think it

strikes a good balance. We

have the premier saying he

found it difficult understanding what is going on.

You would think after 12 years

in government, a government

could actually get a little

better in terls of policy

development than a Premier not

understanding his children's

school reports. Where we are

at now is that the Government

has announced effectively that

they are supporting what the

Coalition has been saying since

they announced this policy.

The two principals associations

say they support the

compromise, but the teachers

Federation is defiant saying A

to E from the Iemma Government.

The they will back with industrial action if necessary

those schools and teachers who

defy the A to E system as now

amended. What we've been

saying is that schools with

their parents have to have a

choice with what words they

use. Some schools already use

A to E grade, some use marks

and percentages, but those are

choices made in the school

community with the parents.

You can't have a one size fits

all report because every

student has different needs.

Every student responds

differently and particularly

for younger children, we node

to motivate them, not limit

them. Not tell them they are

basic. You arc knowledge that

students must be confronted

with their failings, don't

you? I certainly think

students and their parents

should be told what a child can

do and what a child cannot do,

and if you want to describe

what they cannot do as their

failings, yes. That means the

marking system should be

confrontational. You must be

confronted with your failings?

No, I think that's too

simplistic. It will depend on

the age of the child, the social development of the the

child and the curriculum being

taught. While a row between

the teachers Federation and the Government seems certain to

smoulder all the way up to next

year's State election, other

issues have been raised. John

Kaye, education spokes mand and

endorsed Upper House candidate

for the Greens has attacked the

Government over what he says is

a loophole left this week to

constrain four-profit schools

from siphoning Luke ca tiff

takes payer subsidies. The

loophole is quite

straightforward. It says a

private school can continue to

pay members of their governing

boards as much as they like.

That leaves open the idea that

a company like ABC Learning

limited can put themselves or a representative onto a board of

a private school and pay

themselves an un limited

amount. Is this going on?

It's not going on yet. Where

you have a private school and

it appoints to its board a

large corporation and that

corporation gets paid hundreds

of thousands or millions of

dollars a year, then you have a

direct path from State funding

through the private school and

from the private school out

through its board into

corporate Australia. Do you

acknowledge that there is a

loophole in the legislation

that is being carried by the

Parliament this week? No, no,

not at all. We've put in place

legislation to ensure that

for-profit schools, if they are

established, cannot take advantage of State Government

funding. We believe our

funding should be for

education, not for

shareholders, and the

legislation has been

deliberately crafted to try and

avoid some of the problems that

have arisen with similar

legislation in other states.

Why not impose a $500 cap, as

they suggested in the

parliamentary debate, to ensure

that money is not - State money

is not siphoned through these

third party entities on

governing bodies? The way

we've structured our

legislation is that if any part

of a proprietor's assets or

income are transferred to

another party then that is

taken to deem the school as a

for-profit school. John Kaye

was asked, particularly after

the market success of the

childcare provider ABC

Learning. Why can't there be a duality where there is a

shake-up in the sector where

the private sector can get in,

see how market force consistent

be applied to it, in some cases

very effectively, providing

services that were there

before, why can't that model be

transposed to the primary and

secondary education? The

greatest concern we have is

that the corporate sector will

cherrypick easy to provide

services and that will lead the

public sector with the more

expensive to educate. The

corporate sector is there to

make a profit, nothing wrong

with that, that's what they do

by law and nature, but that

profit mow tiff is not

consistent with every child in

Australia deserves a quality

education. As well, Mr Kaye

has claim that had religious

secretary s like the Exclusive

Brethren receives schooling

from many of the 14 mainly

rural and regional schools

throughout New South Wales may

not be adequately regulated or

supervised by the board of

studies. The Meadowbank

Education Trust schools which

are the ex- Exclusive Brethren

schools in New South Wales are

growing like Topsy. They have

come from a spre small base

since federal funding

increased. This year alone

they will get about $3.3 million from the Federal

Government and about $1.3 million from the State

Government. This is a lot of

money flowing into a school

where we have grave concerns

about the educational outcomes.

There are real issues about

schools that are diskourning

students from using computers,

schools that are discouraging

students from engagement with

technology and going onto

university, going onto higher

education. We have grave

concerns about the idea that

the public purse is funding

schools that are teaching

values which are so

diametrically inconsistent with

the values of a Liberal.

Liberal democratic society.

Minister Tebbutt denies any

lack of regular regulatory

rigour by the board of studies

which has the teeth to

deregister consistently non-compliant schools.

Stateline south an interview with the Meadowbank Education

Trust which provide s school

ing for the Exclusive Brethren.

They declined. The trust said

it used computers in school,

many students go on to higher

education and it was fully

compliant with all teaching,

curriculum and registration

requirements. The dog whistle

is turning into a fog horn when it comes to migration and

Australian values. That's what

one member of State Parliament

believes and surprisingly he is

not a leftie - far from it.

The National Party Member for

mum bid gee is Adrian Piccoli.

In a deserted bear bit, --

bearpit, Mr Piccoli rubbished

the suggestion that migrants

should be forced to learn

English and agreed to abide by

Australian values. He was

backed up by someone from the

other side of the chamber. Here are some highlights from

the speeches. Mr Speaker, I

want to say what I think.

There has been a lot of rubbish

spoken about Australian values.

As for English being a

prerequisite to sit zenship,

you're on the wrong track and

comments like that only seek to

marginalise my grnts. As a son

of Italian migrants, those

comments make me ashamed.

Firstly, my father was an

Italian migrant who has

contributed to this country,

employing hundreds, if not

thousands of people over the

years. He could not pass the

test when he arrived as a 17

dwreer old. He goes to work

every day, pays his taxes and

obeys the law, more than I can

say for some people who can

speak English very well.

Secondly, more than half the

kids in high school s fail the

literacy test in year 7. So

my message is pleez stop

blowing the dog whistle because

it has become a fog horn. I've

heard good, honest, decent,

smart people tell me that all

Muslims are bad. Some of them

are, for sure, like some

Catholics and Protestants in

Ireland who are blowing up

people are bad, but not all of

them. I'm afraid for the

divided country Australia will

become. Leaders must stop

talking about -- leaders must

talk about acceptance of other

cultures because while we might

tolerate annoying things in our

lives, we need to accept other

cultures. If you talk about

learning English, it's the year

7 Aussie kids who need it as

well. When you talk about

stopping crime, then pressure

the bikie gangs as well as the

Muslim gangs. What we may want

to to do is sign up to some of

their values and ditch some of

our own. Can I just make a

response to the Member for mum

bid gee? There mur Member for

Murrimbidgee? There isn't

anything in your cannabis

sativa contribution that anyone

of us would disagree with. The

points you make are very

pertinent because when we look

at our country now, sometimes

it's hard to recognise it. I

particularly wanted to make

mention of the story you told

about your father and I can say

and I know that the Member for

Liverpool would also have this

experience, there are many

amazing people in the

electorates that we represent

that also wouldn't pass the

English test, but they are

proud to be Australian, and

they are amaze ing -- amazing

Australians. The point you

made about the dog whistle and

the fog horn are very real. I

mean, it's interesting - I

don't think the dog whistle is

having as much effect as it

once did. However, you see

race trotted out time and time

again, and, as you say, it's

not - it's a fault that many

governments go through - it is

a technique that many

governments use, but in

particular, the debate at the

moment about Australian values

is a generated debate and I

couldn't agree with you more,

when you go and talk to

particularly people who have

come to this country and come

because they've wanted to make

a better life for them and

their family, they are here to

be proud Australians and they

consider Australia their home,

whether they can speak English

or not. The term "generation

gap" has been around for a long

time, but some are now saying

the gap has become a canyon.

In fact, many people are having

so much trouble understanding

the younger generation, they're

going to university courses to

learn how to deal with them.

Ian Henschke reports.

SONG: # People try to put

husband down... # We now have

mums and dads going different

ways. We now have blended

families, step families. There

has been un heralded change and

that's where Generation X and Y

have come from. Very different

from the baby boomers, very

different from the seniors

prior to 1946, for example.

SONG: # Who are you

# Who, who, who, who

# If you want to know what

generation you are, here is the

chart. A senior was born

before 1945. The baby boomers,

between '46 and '64.

Generation X from 1965 to 1979.

Then Generation Y born from

1980 to 1985. The youngest of

them are just about to finish

primary school and the oldest

are in their mid-20s. The

general Ys are truly

technology-loving creatures of

the computer age. This lot is

the now generation. They grew

up with the Internet. They

want speed, they want access

and they want it now. They

don't want to wait. And that

translates back into the

workplace often. They ask for

something and you say, "Yes, I

will be with you shortly," and

half an hour you're still on

the phone call or trying to

finish a project and they're

back at your door saying, "I'm

still waiting." This is just

one of dozens of training

seminars that are being run to

help bridge the new generations

gap. Where it was once just us

and them, now there are up to

four generations that work

together, all trying to

understand each other. For

those crazy baby boomers who

are in business who have

developed that saying squ, work

hol lick" Gen Xs step back and

say, "No, enough is enough. I

need time out." Kath tli is a

baby boomer and a bit of a work

hol lick herself. She is

regularly called upon to help

companies deal with the

differences between the

generations. For a lot of

baby boomers, we learnt the

hard way, we learnt by watching

someone do a job and we

followed along and we just did

whatever was expected of us.

Generation Y will ask you to

give them something else.

They're bored. You need to

keep them busy. While the

baby boomers were quick to move

out of their parents' homes and get established in their own,

the generations below them have often been held back by high

property prices, high unemployment and high HECS

debts. How many of you that

have 20-somethings still at

home have actually accommodated

them at home by putting a

special room in the house? I

have to say I'm guilty. And

they have no intention of

leaving. It's pretty

comfortable at home. It would

have been 35% to 40% of people

in the audience that actually

said, "We still have our

20-somethings at home." Ive

I've got the back end of the

house, you could say, morer

less. I've got the bedroom,

spa, bar, bath trom.

Everything you need. Money is

a big fact for. Looking at

sort of getting a house loan

and what not and having to

save. I'm a shocking saver,

but I buy lottery ticket,. I

bought a lottery ticket for

last weekend. If I ever won

big, I could afford to buy a

house straightaway. But in my

case it's probably just pro

procrastination foro more than

anything and Mum is so nice,

she makes it nice to be at

home. Catherine's son is 27.

He has had half a dozen jobs

and loves new technology and he

has spent a small fortune on

it. The re-mote controls all

my devices. You can do your

TV, set top box, VCR, DVD,

amplifier, CD player and it

does 12 other devices as well.

You can actually control an airconditioner with it or

lights. Generation Y is the

most highly tech know logically

savvy generation and the best

educated group in society.

Along with Generation X, they

now account for more than 40%

of the population. More and

more of them are in the workforce and they often don't

like what they find. The

Generation Ys don't stay very

long in any one place, and I've

been doing some work with some

groups in the hospital and

nursing profession and the

concern, while it hasn't been

raised as a real issue, but it

is an underlying concern, that

a lot of the Generation Ys say,

"Well, I don't want to do

shiftwork. I don't want to

work nights." And then they've

been working for 12 months, two

years and they say, "Is this

it? Is is this what it's all about? Surely there is

something else. Don't tell me

I have to put up with this,

working like this for another

30-odd years or whatever?" And

they become quite dis

illusioned and lost. Dr

Darrell Cross sees a lot of

young people from the X and Y

generations who are having

mid-life crises in their 20s.

You often find them starting to

get into bingeing and a bit of

alcohol and really living it up

as a way of trying to ease some

of their pain and some of their

boredom. In their generation

and in their lifetime, they've

seen more change than any other

group on the planet. We've got

to be sensitive to where

they've come from and we have

to work with them more than

we've ever worked before about

understand ing life's purpose,

understanding their gifts and

understanding what it's all

about for them. Now we know

where we all stand. To do Do

It Yourself Dissent. This week

thedy senters are from Lawson

in the Blue Mountains. They

claim a proposed highway

widening is going to destroy

much of the karker of their

historic village. Here is

their case.

This is the story of the

needless proposed demolition of

a small historic village

brought about by the double

standards of politicians, the

twisted logic of the RTA and

the pig-headedness of Local

Government. Welcome to Lawson

in the World Heritage listed

Blue Mountains west of Sydney.

Also known historically as

Christmas Swamp and 24 mile

hollow, Lawson was a stopover

point for rail and road

travellers from the early

1800s. Its rich historic

heritage still plays an

important part in attracting

visitors from around the world.

But the Blue Mountains City

Council and the State

Government want to smash

historic Lawson to the ground,

to make way just for parking

spaces, to go with a wider

4-lane highway and a new

shopping centre. History,

heritage and tourism will be

discarded, and there is no plan

to re-connect local communities

on either side of this massive

new divide. With the plesing

of the local State Member, Bob

Devis, the demolition plan

would wipe out the value of

Lawson's history. The old

community hall built by local

townsfolk, the 1914 ex-florer's

monument and all of the 20th

Century highway shops. This

shameful plan has no precedent

anywhere. Only the blue

mountain hotel would remain at

the highway. Too bad that

council heritage reports say

that the highway shops are unique, recommended for

heritage listing and in good condition, suitable for

restoration, as it presently

happening to this lovely

off-highway shop. Too bad about community opposition to

the proposed vandalism. Too

bad an alternative plan shows

the 4-lane highway could fit

without destroying the village.

But demolition at the highway

would provide greedy developer

companies with financial gain.

Why don't Mr Devis apply the

same standards to Lawson as he

did when he slammed a National

Party proposal through Lawsons.

The vandals from the National

Party would put a 4-lane

tollway right through the

middle of it, flattened and

cement it over. But Mr Devis,

that's exactly what is going to

happen to Lawson. Why don't

you care now? Now a brief look

at some of the stories and

people making news in regional

New South Wales. Jean Kennedy

reports.

On the Monaro, locals are

fed up over the long time it's

taking to start re building the Nimmitabel showground pavilion.

The pavilion collapsed during a

snow storm in July last year.

Since then, there has been a

dispute between the shire

council and its insurance

company over who should pay for

the restoration. If you're gay

or lesbian and threatened by

violence, Lismore is offering a

haven. A recent noompb Rivers

survey showed that more than

half the gay and lesbian people

interviewed had been victims of

harass ment orifice attack.

Now a number of Lismore businesses and organisations

have agreed to take part in a

safe place program. A pink

ribbon on a house or business will signify that help is

available. The meeting in

Taree this week will including

a section-by-section report

card on the upgrade program.

The tour rural crime unit at

Wagga told local farmers to

check the security on their

fuel storage tanks. Apparently

there has been an increase in

fuel thefts in the State's south-west over the last 10

months. The historic bore

boths at Burren Junction near

Walgett are in trouble, money

trouble. Walgett Shire Shire

Council says it can't afford to

re-fush ish the baths and will

have to close them by Christmas unless the State Government

comes up with the cash.

Finally, police say they found

eight people in a five-seat car

when they pulled over near

Lismore this week. One

passenger was asleep in the

boot. The driver has been

charged with drink-drive ing

after allegedly giving a blood

alcohol reading three times

over the legal limit. And

that's Stateline for another

week. Maxine McKew will be

back with the 7:30 Report on

Monday. Bye.

During major bushfires in

2001 and 2002, police set up

strike force Tronto firebugs.

With arsons suspected again,

the strike force is back. Captions by Captioning and

Subtitling We are proud to say

we are rename ing Nixon Road

Hungry Mile Road.

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