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STANDING ORDERS-STANDING COMMITTEE-3RD REPORT OF 60TH SESSION

The Senate, according to Order, resolved itself into Committee for the consideration of the Third Report of the Standing Orders Committee for the Sixtieth Session.

In the Committee

Ordered-That the Items in the Report be considered separately.

Item 1 (Consideration of Committee Reports)- The Minister for Aboriginal Affairs and Minister for Health (Senator Peter Baume) moved-That the proposed Sessional Order shown in Appendix A of the Report be adopted, viz:

(1) That, notwithstanding anything contained in the Standing Orders, and unless otherwise ordered, where in any week there are Orders of the Day for the resumption of debate on motions for the consideration or adoption of reports of committees-

(a) On Thursday of that week the business before the Senate shall be interrupted one hour before the time at which General Business would have precedence pursuant to Sessional Order, and if the Senate is in Committee at that time, the Chairman shall forthwith leave the Chair and report to the Senate ;

(b) Orders of the Day relating to reports of committees presented to the Senate during that week shall then be severally called on, in the order in which the respective reports were presented;

(c) if there were no committee reports presented during that week, or if debate on motions relating to such reports concludes before the expiration of one hour, Orders of the Day relating to committee reports presented prior to that week shall then be severally called on in an order which is the reverse of the order in which the respective reports were presented;

(d) in any debate on such motions so called on, each Senator may speak for not more than 10 minutes; and

(e) any debate pursuant to this Sessional Order shall be interrupted after the expiration of one hour.

(2) Provided that, where debate on any motion debated under the provisions of this Sessional Order is adjourned or is interrupted under the provisions of this Sessional Order, Senators who have spoken to such motion under the provisions of this Sessional Order may again speak to the motion for the time allowed under Standing Order 407A when the debate on the motion is again called on in the normal course of business.''.

Debate ensued.

Question-put and passed.

Item 2 (Improving the Proceedings of the Senate)-

Senator Peter Baume moved-That the following proposed amendment to Standing Order 407A, shown in Appendix C of the Report, be agreed to, viz:

Leave out the first three paragraphs of the Standing Order and insert the following paragraphs:

''No Senator shall speak for more than thirty minutes in any debate in the Senate. Any Senator may move that the time limit of thirty minutes be extended for fifteen minutes; such motion shall forthwith be put without debate:

''Provided that where a right of reply is allowed in any debate a Senator speaking in reply shall speak for not more than thirty minutes.

''Provided further that, in debate on the first reading of a Bill which the Senate may not amend, no Senator shall speak for more than fifteen minutes.''.

Debate ensued.

Senator Peter Rae moved-That the motion be amended to read as follows: ''That the proposed amendment to Standing Order 407A, shown in Appendix C of the Report , operate as a Sessional Order for a trial period.''.

Debate ensued.

Senator Georges, by leave, moved an amendment to the proposed amendment to Standing Order 407A, viz: leave out the last paragraph of the proposed amendment .

Debate ensued.

Senator Peter Rae, by leave, amended his proposed amendment to read as follows: ''That the proposed amendment to Standing Order 407A, shown in Appendix C of the Report, operate as a Sessional Order for a trial period till 31 December 1982.'' .

Debate continued.

Question-That the words proposed to be left out be left out (Senator Georges' amendment to the proposed amendment to Standing Order 407A)-put.

The Committee divided-

AYES, 16

Senators- Bolkus Bonner Childs Coleman Elstob Georges Gietzelt Harradine Keeffe MacGibbon McLaren Martyr Mulvihill Walsh Walters Teller: Senator Colston

NOES, 43

Senators- Archer Baume Bjelke-Petersen Button Carrick, Sir John Chaney Chipp Coates Collard Crichton-Browne Durack Evans Foreman Giles Grimes Guilfoyle, Dame Margaret Haines Hearn Hill Jessop Jones Kilgariff Lewis McClelland McIntosh Macklin Martin Mason Messner Primmer Rae, Peter Ray, Robert Ryan Scott Sibraa Siddons Tate Teague Thomas Townley Watson Young Teller: Senator Robertson

Amendment negatived accordingly.

Question-That the amendment (Senator Rae's) be agreed to-put and passed.

Question-That the motion, as amended, be agreed to-put and passed.

Item 3 (Petitions)-

Senator Peter Baume moved-That the existing Sessional Order relating to Petitions be replaced by the proposed Sessional Order shown in Appendix D of the Report, viz:

''Notwithstanding anything contained in the Standing Orders, the procedure for the presentation of petitions is varied, as follows:

(1) A Senator wishing to present a petition shall lodge it with the Clerk.

(2) The Clerk shall make an announcement in respect of petitions lodged with him, indicating in respect of each petition the Senator who presents it, the number of signatures, the identity of the petitioners and the subject matter of the petition.

(3) Every petition so presented shall be deemed to have been received by the Senate unless a motion, moved forthwith, that a particular petition be not received, be agreed to.

(4) The terms of the petitions presented shall be printed in Hansard.''.

Debate ensued.

And it being half-past six p.m.: The Chairman of Committees (Senator McClelland) , under Sessional Order, put the Question-That he do leave the Chair and report to the Senate.

Question-resolved in the affirmative.

The President resumed the Chair; and Senator McClelland reported accordingly.