

- Title
MIGRATION AMENDMENT (DETENTION ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2005
In Committee
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
23-06-2005
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
41
- Electorate
Tasmania
- Interjector
Kirk, Linda
(The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN)
- Page
205
- Party
AG
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Brown, Sen Bob
- Stage
In Committee
- Type
- Context
BILLS
- System Id
chamber/hansards/2005-06-23/0320
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Hansard
- Start of Business
- PETITIONS
- NOTICES
- BUSINESS
- COMMITTEES
- PALMER REPORT
- NORTHERN TERRITORY ELECTION
- COMMITTEES
- TRANSPARENT ADVERTISING AND NOTIFICATION OF PREGNANCY COUNSELLING SERVICES BILL 2005
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MARITIME TRANSPORT AND OFFSHORE FACILITIES SECURITY AMENDMENT (MARITIME SECURITY GUARDS AND OTHER MEASURES) BILL 2005
MARITIME LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2005
HIGHER EDUCATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (2005 MEASURES NO. 3) BILL 2005
CIVIL AVIATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (MUTUAL RECOGNITION WITH NEW ZEALAND) BILL 2005
BROADCASTING LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL (NO. 1) 2005
ARTS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (MARITIME MUSEUM AND FILM, TELEVISION AND RADIO SCHOOL) BILL 2005
ACTS INTERPRETATION AMENDMENT (LEGISLATIVE INSTRUMENTS) BILL 2005 - COMPULSORY STUDENT FEES
- BUSINESS
- COMMITTEES
- BUDGET
- COMMITTEES
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2005 MEASURES NO. 1) BILL 2005
- COMMITTEES
- ENVIRONMENT AND HERITAGE LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2005
- FAMILY LAW AMENDMENT BILL 2005
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MIGRATION AMENDMENT (DETENTION ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2005
- First Reading
- Second Reading
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In Committee
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Economy: Foreign Debt
(Sherry, Sen Nick, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Family Services: Family Payments
(Knowles, Sen Susan, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Economy: Performance
(Campbell, Sen George, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Immigration
(Scullion, Sen Nigel, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Superannuation
(Sherry, Sen Nick, Abetz, Sen Eric) -
University Fees
(Bartlett, Sen Andrew, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Job Network
(Wong, Sen Penny, Abetz, Sen Eric) -
PET Scanners
(Harradine, Sen Brian, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Telecommunications: Rural and Regional Australia
(Conroy, Sen Stephen, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Sport: Drug Testing
(Tchen, Sen Tsebin, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Iraq
(Bolkus, Sen Nick, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Mr Ahmed Aziz Rafiq
(Nettle, Sen Kerry, Hill, Sen Robert)
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Economy: Foreign Debt
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: ADDITIONAL ANSWERS
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
- AUSTRALIAN LABOR PARTY
- LEADER OF THE NATIONALS, DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER AND MINISTER FOR TRANSPORT AND REGIONAL SERVICES
- COMMITTEES
- PARLIAMENTARY RETIRING ALLOWANCES TRUST
- COMMITTEES
- AUDITOR-GENERAL’S REPORTS
- DELEGATION REPORTS
- COMMITTEES
- DOCUMENTS
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ENVIRONMENT GROUPS
TASMANIAN PULP MILL - COMMITTEES
- TRUST BANK
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MIGRATION AMENDMENT (DETENTION ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2005
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In Committee
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Division
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Division
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Colbeck, Sen Richard
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Colbeck, Sen Richard
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Colbeck, Sen Richard
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Colbeck, Sen Richard
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Procedural Text
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In Committee
- BUSINESS
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2005 MEASURES NO. 1) BILL 2005
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2005 MEASURES NO. 2) BILL 2005
- SUPERANNUATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (CHOICE OF SUPERANNUATION FUNDS) BILL 2005
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TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (IMPROVEMENTS TO SELF ASSESSMENT) BILL (NO. 1) 2005
SHORTFALL INTEREST CHARGE (IMPOSITION) BILL 2005 -
SUPERANNUATION BILL 2005
SUPERANNUATION (CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) BILL 2005 -
TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (IMPROVEMENTS TO SELF ASSESSMENT) BILL (NO. 1) 2005
SHORTFALL INTEREST CHARGE (IMPOSITION) BILL 2005 -
MIGRATION AMENDMENT (DETENTION ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2005
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In Committee
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Division
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Nettle, Sen Kerry
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Division
- Ludwig, Sen Joe
- Vanstone, Sen Amanda
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Third Reading
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In Committee
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2005 MEASURES NO. 1) BILL 2005
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2005 MEASURES NO. 2) BILL 2005
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SUPERANNUATION BILL 2005
SUPERANNUATION (CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) BILL 2005 -
TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (IMPROVEMENTS TO SELF ASSESSMENT) BILL (NO. 1) 2005
SHORTFALL INTEREST CHARGE (IMPOSITION) BILL 2005 - SUPERANNUATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (CHOICE OF SUPERANNUATION FUNDS) BILL 2005
- CRIMINAL CODE AMENDMENT (SUICIDE RELATED MATERIAL OFFENCES) BILL 2005
- MIGRATION AMENDMENT (DETENTION ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2005
- TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (REGULAR REVIEWS AND OTHER MEASURES) BILL 2005
- FAMILY LAW AMENDMENT BILL 2005
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APPROPRIATION (PARLIAMENTARY DEPARTMENTS) BILL (NO. 1) 2005-2006
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 1) 2005-2006
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 2) 2005-2006
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 5) 2004-2005
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 6) 2004-2005 - PETITIONS
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APPROPRIATION (PARLIAMENTARY DEPARTMENTS) BILL (NO. 1) 2005-2006
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 1) 2005-2006
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 2) 2005-2006
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 5) 2004-2005
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 6) 2004-2005 - BILLS RETURNED FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
- COMMITTEES
- LEAVE OF ABSENCE
- ADJOURNMENT
- Adjournment
- DOCUMENTS
- QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
Page: 205
Senator BROWN (8:53 PM)
—When the Minister for Immigration and Multicultural and Indigenous Affairs gets it wrong, she really does get it sensationally wrong. The Ombudsman is a concept from Scandinavia to help deal with ministerial and bureaucratic bungling. It is not to be toothless but to be empowered so that its findings can be utilised through the court system to bring that bungler—whoever it might be—to justice. What we have here, however, are a minister and a government who do not accept that that is the way ombudsmen work. She is saying: ‘Well, on this occasion, to make it look good in public’—and Prime Minister Howard signed off on this, and I pity the minister because she has to try to argue his outcome—‘there will be a judgment made by the Ombudsman.’ However, on this occasion there is no action that can be taken on the judgment when it arrives, except a political debate.
So, having had a go at the judiciary and the parliament, we now have the government devaluing the office of the Ombudsman in this country. The minister would know that the Ombudsman does not report to the minister as such, and was never meant to, but reports to the parliament because it is not a position to be politicised. Its position is to defend the public interest against politicians, particularly ministers and bureaucracies. But on this occasion the government is legislating differently so that does not occur. What happens is that you get an Ombudsman’s report and that is where it ends. You can have a political debate, but no empowerment beyond that. In particular, you do not give the parliament the power to act on that report.
If this were genuine and the Ombudsman made an adverse finding, it would be regulated in this parliament and then it would be up to the parliament to allow or disallow that finding—but not this government, because they do not trust parliament, and they particularly do not trust a parliament in which they are going to have a one-seat majority in the forthcoming Senate. Do you know why? Because they do not trust each other. So there is not going to be a disallowable instrument, as it is called, companioning the Ombudsman’s finding. The minister says, ‘There will be a political debate.’ What a failure to understand the office of the Ombudsman, to understand its relationship with parliament and, above all, to understand that the parliament is elected. Not the executive, not the ministers, not even the Prime Minister; the parliament is elected. This government have shied away from the idea that parliament is supreme because they believe the executive should reign supreme. That is what this legislation does: it says the executive can accept or reject a report of the Ombudsman and parliament will be sidelined with no power to act. That is why the amendments are here and that is the point that the minister either does not understand or does not want to confront.