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Wednesday, 1 December 2004
Page: 12


Senator BROWN (10:15 AM) —We do disagree with the Democrats on that matter. We do not agree with mandatory sentencing. That is an interference with the court's right to make the appropriate determination according to the evidence before it. And we do not believe in mandating closed courts. That, again, is a matter that is properly dealt with by the courts of the day. You either have trust in the judicial system and the court system and its independence or you do not. The Democrats are joining the other parties in this place in crossing that line.

Question put:

That the amendments (Senator Brown's) be agreed to.