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Tuesday, 10 December 2002
Page: 7616

Senator BOLKUS (8:42 PM) —The minister thinks that we were born yesterday. I point out to the minister that, in my experience as immigration minister in this place, time and time again—

Senator Ellison —We don't want to go there.

Senator BOLKUS —I would not mind going there. If you want to go there, I will take you there on this particular point, Minister. At least I used to come to this parliament prepared for the issues, unlike you. At least I used to come in here having read the briefs of my own. And at least I used to understand the legislation, unlike you. If you are looking at experience, time and time again federal judges would issue warrants and do all sorts of proceedings by telephone, out of their chambers or wherever. There is provision in federal laws for that. I suggest to you that on this point, as on many others, the real problem may not be the capacity to do things but more an unwillingness by the government to actually accommodate some fairly pressing issues.