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Wednesday, 21 April 1999
Page: 3968


Senator Gibson —Madam President, I am certain there are some senators who went out after the last division—which was a mickey mouse one—and therefore I suspect it should have been a four-minute bell rather than a one-minute bell.


The PRESIDENT —Nobody called for it, and there had been no debate between the previous division and the next.


Senator Gibson —I was one and there were others outside also.


The PRESIDENT —Leave could be sought to have the bells rung again, but there had been no debate and we are in a series and one would not expect them to be. But if somebody seeks leave to have them rung again for four minutes, that is a matter for the Senate to determine.


Senator Kemp —I am loath to detain the Senate but, in order to clarify the position, could we get some guidance from the whips as to whether there are people missing. I seek leave to have the bells rung for another four minutes.

Opposition senators interjecting


The PRESIDENT —Order!

Senator Conroy interjecting


The PRESIDENT —Order! Senator Conroy, I am standing up and you should cease shouting. Is leave granted for the bells to be rung for four minutes and this division recommitted?

Leave not granted.

Question so resolved in the affirmative.


The PRESIDENT —We now proceed to the foreshadowed motion—

Honourable senators interjecting


The PRESIDENT —We are in the process of voting and it proceeds. Unless somebody moves to suspend it, it is appropriate and this is what happens. We proceed with the divisions. We now come to the foreshadowed amendment of Senator Carr, as printed on sheet 1338, in respect of A New Tax System (Australian Business Number) Bill 1998 .

Amendment (by Senator Carr) proposed:

At the end of the motion, add:

"but that the Senate notes evidence given by a joint employer-union submission to the Senate committees examining the legislation that the Australian Business Number will worsen an already serious tax avoidance situation in the building industry estimated to cost $1 billion per year and growing".


The PRESIDENT —The question is that the motion moved by Senator Carr be agreed to.