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Tuesday, 28 June 1994
Page: 2131


Senator VANSTONE (8.19 p.m.) —Yes, it does say `another person present'. I made that point a couple of times—yesterday when the minister was not the minister responsible and today when he is. It is envisaged that this will be used by people to have legal representation but it may be that the person dealing with this question on which their future rests—as Senator Harradine pointed out, quite serious consequences can be the outcome of one of these tribunal hearings—is not a lawyer. It might be a specialist in another field. People before the tribunal should be entitled, in an area where they do not feel confident or competent or feel under stress because they are before a tribunal and their opinion is being questioned, to have another person speaking on their behalf. It seems to me a basic right and that is the right we want to put in.