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Thursday, 27 November 1986
Page: 2935


Senator GRIMES (Minister for Community Services)(9.46) —The first one is a good question. I was just getting a very complicated answer from an adviser who tells me that the bills this year to which Senator MacGibbon refers are dummies to test the system. It is a good question and I will find out the answer. I do not know anything about the chicanery and corruption but I will find out about that too. No one here knows about it. But I am surprised that honourable people like Senator Townley and Senator MacGibbon, who fly around the country, would act in such a way.