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Tuesday, 17 November 1964


Senator GORTON (Victoria) (Minister for Works and Minister in Charge of Commonwealth Activities in Education and Research) (12:52 PM) . - in reply - About the only point on which I could agree with what the honorable senator who has just resumed his seat had to say was that this Bill does not do anything for secondary and primary education, since this is a Bill strictly limited to providing a level-


Senator Dittmer - I did not say that.


Senator GORTON - You said that this Bill does not do anything for secondary and primary education.


Senator Dittmer - No. I referred to the Government's attitude. I did not mention the Bill.


Senator GORTON - I suggest to the honorable senator that he looks at " Hansard " tomorrow and he will find out just what he said - that is, unless he alters the " Hansard " report of his speech.


Senator Dittmer - I do not alter my speeches in " Hansard ".


Senator GORTON - When the honorable senator has finished making his second reading speech, I would point out that this Bill provides for higher academic salaries which the Government stands prepared to support. Obviously it does not deal with secondary and primary education. Therefore, that is the only point on which I can agree with the honorable senator who spoke on this matter. The Government does believe that it is entitled to some credit for this Bill. We know that the spokesman for the Opposition does not commend it-


Senator Dittmer - I did not say that at all.


Senator GORTON - The honorable senator did. He did not commend the Government.


Senator Dittmer - I did not.


Senator GORTON - The honorable senator should not deny so quickly what he said a minute ago. As I was saying, the spokesman for the Opposition has said that the Opposition does not commend the Bill. The Government does believe that it is entitled to some credit for introducing the Bill. As we said we would, we have appointed a committee of inquiry. We have accepted the recommendations of that committee of inquiry. Certainly, the Federation of Australian University Staff Associations is highly satisfied with the way the inquiry was conducted, with the results of the inquiry, and with the prompt action of the Government to accept those recommendations.


Senator Dittmer - Ask the States if they are satisfied.


Senator GORTON - I am not talking about the States. I am talking about the Federation of the Australian University Staff Associations. The honorable senator seems to be having a little difficulty in understanding the point I am making. I will try to drive it into his head again. These staff associations are highly satisfied with the Government for having appointed the inquiry and for having accepted its report so promptly. They are highly satisfied with the way in which the inquiry was held.

One might have gained from the speech made by the spokesman for the Opposition the impression that what the Government is asking for in these Bills is only authorisation to support the higher salaries for professors and associate professors or readers. Of course, that is not true. As the second reading speech, which was in front of the honorable senator, makes abundantly clear, the Bills also deal with the levels of salary that the Government stands prepared to support for senior lecturers and lecturers. As everybody who has been concerned with this legislation - except the spokesman for the Opposition - seems to be satisfied with it, I again commend it to the Senate.

Question resolved in the affirmative.

Bill read a second time, and passed through its remaining stages without amendment or debate.







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