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Wednesday, 16 December 1914


The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN (Senator Mcdougall (NEW SOUTH WALES) - Senator Gould is not in order in discussing the general principles of the Bill, and I ask him to confine his remarks to the amendment.


Senator ALBERT GOULD (NEW SOUTH WALES) -Colonel Sir ALBERTGOULD. - It is almost impossible to deal with the amendment without discussing the general principles of the measure. Does Senator O'Keefe desire that I should debate this question upon the motion for the third reading of the measure ? Every word that I have uttered is absolutely pertinent to the clause, the principle of which is to levy a tax on Crown lands by an indirect method. However honorable senators opposite may seek to cover up their object, we shall probably find somebody questioning our constitutional power to do what we are now asked to do. We are endeavouring to tax Crown lands, because they have been leased at less than their true value to some individuals in the community.

SenatorFindley. - Is there anything wrong in doing that?


Senator ALBERT GOULD (NEW SOUTH WALES) -Colonel Sir ALBERTGOULD. - It is unconstitutional.


Senator Findley - The honorable senator is not the High Court.


Senator ALBERT GOULD (NEW SOUTH WALES) -Colonel Sir ALBERTGOULD. - Nor is Senator Findley. In debating this clause, the only satisfaction which one can derive is the knowledge that his protest against an improper attempt to interfere with these particular leaseholds will be placed on record in Hansard. I do not know that I need say any more just now. Senator O'Keefe seems anxious that I should reserve my remarks on this question until the motion for the third reading of the Bill is under consideration. I am glad to know that when that stage has been reached, it will be competent for me to discuss the measure from A to Z.







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