Mr HEDGES (Fremantle) .- I consider that the discussion upon this item has proved that, so far as the timber duties are concerned, we made a good job of the Tariff when we last considered it. The Tariff on that occasion was given more conssideration than we are able to give to this proposal. . I believe that it would do no harm to leave white pine dutiable at 6d. per 100 superficial feet, as it is at present ; but I hope that whatever is done will benefit the producers of butter and fruit alike. I think there should be no distinction made between them. I have a communication from the Western Australian Fruit-growers'' Association in which they strongly protest against any extra duty on timber for fruit cases. They contend that it is . almost impossible to secure satisfactory cases from the use of the local hardwood. I know that the attempt has been made, and that it has not been considered successful. At one time I thought it might be better, in dealing with this item, to make provision for rebates, but I am afraid that that would cost too much for supervision. I direct attention to the reference in this item to hickory felloes. I have seen hickory rims, but I never knew hickory to be cut' into felloes. If honorable members are prepared to come to a vote I shall not speak at greater length, but I hope theMinister will state that it is his intention to retain the present duty on white pine.