

- Title
QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
Budget
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
09-05-2012
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
43
- Electorate
- Interjector
- Page
2944
- Party
LP
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Ryan, Sen Scott
- Stage
- Type
- Context
QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
- System Id
chamber/hansards/c8a1094c-1e25-46e2-b93a-113c9a96ed31/0098
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Hansard
- Start of Business
- BUDGET
- COMMITTEES
- BILLS
- BUSINESS
- BILLS
- BUSINESS
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BILLS
- Corporations Amendment (Phoenixing and Other Measures) Bill 2012
- Family Assistance and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2012
- Social Security Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Stronger Futures in the Northern Territory Bill 2012, Stronger Futures in the Northern Territory (Consequential and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2011
- MATTERS OF PUBLIC INTEREST
- MINISTERIAL ARRANGEMENTS
- PARTY OFFICE HOLDERS
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
- DISTINGUISHED VISITORS
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Budget
(Cormann, Sen Mathias, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Budget
(Milne, Sen Christine, Carr, Sen Bob) -
Budget
(Brandis, Sen George, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Budget
(Brown, Sen Carol, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Budget
(Joyce, Sen Barnaby, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Carbon Pricing
(Madigan, Sen John, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Budget
(Sinodinos, Sen Arthur, Wong, Sen Penny)
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Budget
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: ADDITIONAL ANSWERS
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
- PETITIONS
- NOTICES
- BUSINESS
- COMMITTEES
- NOTICES
- MOTIONS
- BUSINESS
- COMMITTEES
- MOTIONS
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BUSINESS
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Consideration of Legislation
- Collins, Sen Jacinta
- Fifield, Sen Mitch
- Mason, Sen Brett
- Ronaldson, Sen Michael
- Milne, Sen Christine
- Cormann, Sen Mathias
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Williams, Sen John
- Division
- Collins, Sen Jacinta
- Fifield, Sen Mitch
- Collins, Sen Jacinta
- Division
- Collins, Sen Jacinta
- Mason, Sen Brett
- Collins, Sen Jacinta
- Division
- Division
- Collins, Sen Jacinta
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Consideration of Legislation
- MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
- COMMITTEES
- DOCUMENTS
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QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
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Prime Minister and Cabinet (Question No. 1736)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry (Question No. 1753)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Resources and Energy, and Tourism (Question Nos 1754 and 1755)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Social Inclusion (Question No. 1762)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Human Services: Staffing (Question No. 1767)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Public Service and Integrity (Question No. 1773)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Muckaty Land Trust (Question No. 1784)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Muckaty Land Trust (Question No. 1786)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Uranium Exports (Question No. 1787)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (Question No. 1788)
(Rhiannon, Sen Lee, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Gambling (Question No. 1795)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Prime Minister (Question No. 1799)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher)
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Prime Minister and Cabinet (Question No. 1736)
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Senator RYAN (Victoria) (15:02): I move:
That the Senate take note of answers given by ministers to questions without notice asked by Opposition senators today relating to the 2012-13 Budget.
Here we have it again: another year, another increase in borrowings; another year, yet more put on the national credit card. Year after year, in all my time here, we have seen government ministers come in here and make devout promises, putting their hand on the Bible and swearing these forecasts are correct, swearing that it will all be better next year. But what we have seen year after year is nothing but rhetoric. These are all empty promises. What we heard from the Treasurer in the other place last night will again be proven to be nothing but an empty promise. This government, when it comes to managing the nation's accounts, has absolutely no credibility. In the words of Senator Wong this afternoon, she had determination to deliver these results; but results speak louder than any determination or any contrived commitment to serious management of the nation's finances. Labor's achievements in this regard are truly extraordinary. What we have seen after the budget tabled last night is a tally of $174 billion in deficits over only four years of Labor budgets. They have turned net assets into net debt of $145 billion.
At this point I would like to take up the issue raised by Senator Joyce with Senator Wong this afternoon about net versus gross debt. Net debt is an important comparison, but what the government does not want to explain when it talks about net debt and when it offsets the gross borrowings mainly with the Future Fund—a fund created by the former coalition government, I hasten to add—is that the Future Fund is already taken into account when we look at other liabilities the Commonwealth owes. If you want a fair comparison, taking into account the assets held in the Future Fund and other Commonwealth assets, you should also look at the other liabilities of the Commonwealth. But that is not what this government actually wants to talk about. This government wants to count the Future Fund twice, and it does that by trying to pretend that the superannuation liabilities that the Future Fund was set up to cover are not being in any way considered when we take into account net debt. That is a very important point, because to every Australian taxpayer those superannuation liabilities are just as due and we are just as liable for them as any bond issued by the Commonwealth and held by the latest overseas investor that has funnelled the money into this government. The point that Senator Joyce raises is very important. You cannot count the Future Fund twice and net it off against gross debt without taking into account the liabilities for which it was set up to fund and has not yet done so completely.
In the current financial year alone, the government's forecast has been shown to be completely without basis in reality. Less than 18 months ago we heard that the current financial year was going to have a $12 billion deficit. A year ago this week it was going to be $22 billion. Last December it was going to be $37 billion. It was going to be $44 billion as of last night. God only knows what it is going to be by 30 June, because if we keep running up that scale it will get into the high-forty billions, because this government is simply unable to manage the nation's accounts.
We are paying $8 billion a year in interest. It works out at $22 million a day that we are paying in interest—not for what great leaders like Sir Henry Bolte might have done, in building freeways and national assets, but merely to have funded the cash splash and the electoral bribes this government is so enamoured with. There is a better way to look at the $22 million a day. Everyone should put a jar in their home kitchen and every day, every member of their family should put a $1 coin in it. It is costing a dollar a day from every Australian just to service the interest bill that this government has run up. And that is not a dollar a day that you can put towards a holiday, to paying off the mortgage or to something you might buy. That is a dollar a day purely to fund and service the debt this government has created. It is an extraordinary level of debt.
Of course, today we heard the catch-all excuse: the global financial crisis, the excuse that keeps on giving. Indeed, a cynic might wonder that today from Senator Wong we actually heard a bit of a warm up, a bit of a simmer of the global financial crisis excuse. I bet that this time next year, if you are still in office, we will be hearing that again. Something happens and the government will always find an excuse. Well, this government is out of excuses. No-one believes you. No-one believes this government will deliver a surplus. It will not be in office to do so. And we will never see the final accounts. This government has got a track record of debt, deficit and deceit.