Senator LUDLAM (Western Australia) (12:57): The Minister for Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research mentioned on a number of occasions the concept of 'world's best practice', and I am going to take the bait because it is always interesting when that phrase gets flung around. I would like to follow up on a question I am not sure the minister gave an answer to put to him by Senator Di Natale. Since the Minister for Resources and Energy became the minister, has he at any time visited Tennant Creek to talk these issues through not just with the traditional owners who brought the action in the Federal Court or the larger circle of families around them but also with the Cattlemen's Association, local government or the rest of the residents of the town? Has he been there at all?