Senator JACINTA COLLINS (Victoria—Parliamentary Secretary for School Education and Workplace Relations) (20:35): I understand your point, Senator Madigan, and this is why you will generally find that providers of training in this type of area seek to market their product by attracting the very types of endorsements that you are talking about. For foundries, that association would obviously be one that providers would be seeking endorsement from. For the retail sector it would be the relevant retailers' association, and so on sector by sector. It is part of the marketing of their product to attract those types of endorsements to demonstrate to trainees or to employers that they are delivering relevant training.