

- Title
MOTIONS
Dissent from Ruling
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
07-02-2012
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
43
- Electorate
- Interjector
- Page
181
- Party
AG
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Brown, Sen Bob
- Stage
- Type
- Context
MOTIONS
- System Id
chamber/hansards/24adae21-1d61-4769-9c99-2f9970fb951a/0192
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Hansard
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Member for Dobell
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Economy
(Moore, Sen Claire, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Gillard Government
(Cormann, Sen Mathias, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Forestry
(Brown, Sen Bob, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Carbon Pricing
(Birmingham, Sen Simon, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Automotive Industry
(Gallacher, Sen Alex, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Carbon Pricing
(Williams, Sen John, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Australian Federal Police
(Milne, Sen Christine, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Carbon Pricing
(Edwards, Sen Sean, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Economy
(Polley, Sen Helen, Wong, Sen Penny)
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Member for Dobell
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
- CONDOLENCES
- MOTIONS
- PETITIONS
- NOTICES
- BUSINESS
- COMMITTEES
- BUSINESS
- COMMITTEES
- NOTICES
- COMMITTEES
- MOTIONS
- MATTERS OF PUBLIC IMPORTANCE
- MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS
- DOCUMENTS
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COMMITTEES
- Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade References Committee
- Rural Affairs and Transport References Committee
- DOCUMENTS
- PRIVILEGE
- DOCUMENTS
- AUDITOR-GENERAL'S REPORTS
- DOCUMENTS
- COMMITTEES
- DOCUMENTS
- COMMITTEES
- DOCUMENTS
- COMMITTEES
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BILLS
- Excise Tariff Amendment (Condensate) Bill 2011, Deterring People Smuggling Bill 2011, Tax Laws Amendment (2011 Measures No. 8) Bill 2011, Work Health and Safety Bill 2011, Personal Property Securities Amendment (Registration Commencement) Bill 2011, National Health Reform Amendment (Independent Hospital Pricing Authority) Bill 2011, Excise Legislation Amendment (Condensate) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Household Assistance Amendments) Bill 2011, Coal Mining Industry (Long Service Leave) Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Climate Change Authority Bill 2011, Corporations (Fees) Amendment Bill 2011, Social Security and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Work Health and Safety (Transitional and Consequential Provisions) Bill 2011, Tax Laws Amendment (2011 Measures No. 7) Bill 2011, Tobacco Plain Packaging Bill 2011, Trade Marks Amendment (Tobacco Plain Packaging) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Income Tax Rates Amendments) Bill 2011, Australian Renewable Energy Agency Bill 2011, Australian Renewable Energy Agency (Consequential Amendments and Transitional Provisions) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Charges—Customs) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Charges—Excise) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Customs Tariff Amendment) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Excise Tariff Legislation Amendment) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Fuel Tax Legislation Amendment) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (International Unit Surrender Charge) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Tax Laws Amendments) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Unit Issue Charge—Auctions) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Unit Issue Charge—Fixed Charge) Bill 2011, Clean Energy (Unit Shortfall Charge—General) Bill 2011, Clean Energy Regulator Bill 2011, Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Import Levy) Amendment Bill 2011, Ozone Protection and Synthetic Greenhouse Gas (Manufacture Levy) Amendment Bill 2011, Territories Self-Government Legislation Amendment (Disallowance and Amendment of Laws) Bill 2011, Maritime Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Navigation Amendment Bill 2011, Veterans’ Affairs Legislation Amendment (Participants in British Nuclear Tests) Bill 2011, Parliamentary Service Amendment (Parliamentary Budget Officer) Bill 2011, National Vocational Education and Training Regulator Amendment Bill 2011, Business Names Registration (Application of Consequential Amendments) Bill 2011, Social Security Legislation Amendment (Family Participation Measures) Bill 2011, Crimes Legislation Amendment Act (No. 2) 2011, National Residue Survey (Excise) Levy Amendment (Deer) Bill 2011, Protection of the Sea (Prevention of Pollution from Ships) Amendment (Oils in the Antarctic Area) Bill 2011, Broadcasting Services Amendment (Review of Future Uses of Broadcasting Services Bands Spectrum) Bill 2011, Higher Education Support Amendment Act (No. 2) 2011, Social Security Amendment (Student Income Support Reforms) Bill 2011, Aviation Transport Security Amendment (Air Cargo) Bill 2011, Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation and Other Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Safety, Rehabilitation and Compensation Amendment (Fair Protection for Firefighters) Bill 2011, Defence Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Competition and Consumer Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Competition and Consumer Amendment Bill (No. 1) 2011, Human Rights (Parliamentary Scrutiny) Bill 2011, Human Rights (Parliamentary Scrutiny) (Consequential Provisions) Bill 2011, Indigenous Affairs Legislation Amendment Bill (No. 2) 2011, Family Law Legislation Amendment (Family Violence and Other Measures) Bill 2011, Auditor-General Amendment Bill 2011
- Aviation Transport Security Amendment (Air Cargo) Bill 2011, Family Law Legislation Amendment (Family Violence and Other Measures) Bill 2011
- Business Names Registration (Application of Consequential Amendments) Bill 2011, Coal Mining Industry (Long Service Leave) Legislation Amendment Bill 2011, Social Security Legislation Amendment (Family Participation Measures) Bill 2011
- Offshore Petroleum and Greenhouse Gas Storage Amendment (Significant Incident Directions) Bill 2011
- COMMITTEES
- MOTIONS
- DOCUMENTS
- DOCUMENTS
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ADJOURNMENT
- Crossin, Sen Trish (The ACTING DEPUTY PRESIDENT)
- Sydney Cricket Ground
- B-24 Liberator Restoration Project, Employment
- Beetson, Mr Arthur, AO, Sydney Street Choir
- Banking
- Bingara Living Classroom
- Wind Farms
- National Space Policy
- Defence Equipment
- Safer Internet Day
- Murray-Darling Basin
- Centenary of the Brisbane General Strike
- Employment
- Employment
- Workplace Relations
- Australian Flag
- Defence Procurement
- DOCUMENTS
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QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
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Foreign Affairs and Trade: Overseas Travel (Question No. 549)
(Johnston, Sen David, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question No. 681)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Human Rights (Question No. 685)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Australian Bureau of Statistics (Question No. 686 amended)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Sudan (Question No. 892)
(Rhiannon, Sen Lee, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question No. 904)
(Hanson-Young, Sen Sarah, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question No. 930)
(Johnston, Sen David, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question No. 931)
(Johnston, Sen David, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Australian Broadcasting Corporation (Question No. 1021)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Wizard Projects Pty Ltd (Question No. 1041)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade: Code of Conduct Investigations (Question Nos 1049 and 1063)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
School Education, Early Childhood and Youth (Question No. 1096)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Indigenous Communities (Question No. 1097)
(Siewert, Sen Rachel, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
AusAID: Agent Orange (Question No.1102)
(Rhiannon, Sen Lee, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Attorney-General, Home Affairs and Justice: Staffing (Question Nos 1127, 1136 and 1137)
(Humphries, Sen Gary, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question Nos 1164 and 1178)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Finance and Deregulation (Question No. 1201)
(Cormann, Sen Mathias, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy (Question No. 1208)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Climate Change (Question No. 1215)
(Boswell, Sen Ronald, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Climate Change (Question No. 1217)
(Boswell, Sen Ronald, Wong, Sen Penny) -
National Rental Affordability Scheme (Question No. 1226)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research, and School Education, Early Childhood and Youth (Question Nos 1234 and 1235)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Tertiary Education, Skills, Science and Research, and School Education, Early Childhood and Youth (Question Nos 1236 and 1237)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade: Advertising (Question No. 1244)
(Johnston, Sen David, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question No. 1248)
(Johnston, Sen David, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Foreign Affairs and Trade (Question No. 1249)
(Johnston, Sen David, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Seal Products (Question No. 1261)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Thailand (Question No. 1264)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Pontville Detention Centre (Question No. 1268)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Sustainability, Environment, Water, Population and Communities (Question No. 1271)
(Boswell, Sen Ronald, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Uranium Mining (Question No. 1273)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Whaling (Question No. 1277)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Australian Health Survey (Question No. 1278)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Carbon Pricing (Question No. 1283)
(Milne, Sen Christine, Sherry, Sen Nick) -
Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy (Question No. 1284)
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Pontville Detention Centre (Question No. 1285)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Pontville Detention Centre (Question No. 1287)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Pontville Detention Centre (Question No. 1288)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Tasman National Park (Question No. 1289)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Tasmanian Regional Forest Agreement (Question No. 1290)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Tasmanian Regional Forest Agreement (Question No. 1291)
(Brown, Sen Bob, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Immigration and Citizenship (Question No. 1292)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Pontville Detention Centre (Question No. 1293)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Pontville Detention Centre (Question No. 1294)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Defence: Special Purpose Aircraft (Question No. 1296)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher) -
Prime Minister: Stationery (Question No. 1302)
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Christopher)
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Foreign Affairs and Trade: Overseas Travel (Question No. 549)
Page: 181
Senator BOB BROWN (Tasmania—Leader of the Australian Greens) (17:58): This is one of the more serious matters that can ever come before a house of parliament—that is, a dissent from the ruling of the Presiding Officer. It is not a matter that can be taken lightly. However, if I can recast your recollection to the events of the last sitting week of last year, you will see why I took this action when I did. While we can expect that the Senate will vote on this matter on a political determination, I would also ask senators to acknowledge the argument that I will put forward because it ought to be a vote that is made on the merits, not on simply the numbers in the Senate. At the end of November in the last sitting week the President accepted a proposal—effectively a notice of motion—from Senator Kroger that had been worked on extensively, which is very abundantly clear, by the Leader of the Opposition in the Senate, Senator Abetz, to accuse my colleague Christine Milne, but more particularly me, of what is effectively a criminal matter, that is, that we were influenced by the donation of $1.6 million from Mr Graeme Wood during the last election campaign to, at that time, assist him in the purchase of a woodchip mill at Triabunna in Tasmania some year or so later, certainly many months later. The facts are, of course, absurd because the proposed site of that woodchip mill was not notified and I do not think was even in the head of Gunns Limited at the time the donation was received from Mr Wood, who is an honourable person and with whom no arrangement was, has or ever will be made as far as I or my staff are concerned or, I am sure, the good Mr Wood is concerned. It was simply a matter of a donation being made to the Australian Greens—the biggest individual donation in history. I think that that led to the enmity of members opposite and to the fury of Senator Abetz which has led to this course of events.
You will remember, Mr President, that in July last year both Senator Abetz and Senator Brandis took on the attack on corruption on this matter in this chamber on both Senator Milne and me, though the substance was not there. In the event you, Mr President, nevertheless took, prima facie, the dossier presented to you by Senator Kroger, originating from Senator Abetz, and determined that it was a matter that should be looked at by the Senate Standing Committee of Privileges. This in itself is a very serious determination by any president. If there is a precedent for it in the history of the Senate, then I will wait to hear that come out in consequent debate. The next day the Senate took up the notice of motion and referred the matter. We Greens did not vote against it because to do so would appear that there was something to cover up or to be backward about. We did not in any way resile from the fact that this proposal to the Privileges Committee was a politically concocted attack on two good senators and a good citizen of this country in an unprecedented way and ought never have got past the President of the Senate, but it did.
To demonstrate the danger of such a failure of presidential judgment, the consequent day I wrote to you, Mr President, about a matter relating to Senator Boswell. I will not go through that; it is on the record and the motion is before us. Consequently I also wrote to you about Senator Joyce and Senator Cash, all of whom have at least equal cases to answer with the logic of your decision that the matter ought to go before the Privileges Committee. But in each of those cases you determined that they should not go to the Privileges Committee. In doing so you exhibited not only an error of judgment but a very clear bias in that determination. It is an error of judgment and a bias that should not be displayed by any presiding officer, let alone the presiding officer of this great chamber.
I would look at the process of that decision that you so falsely made, Mr President. Parliaments from the House of Commons over centuries, and this great parliament of ours, have had to tangle with many fraught matters of privilege and whether or not they should be referred to privileges committees. As far back as 1984 the then Joint Select Committee on Parliamentary Privilege in judging that a member who has an accusation that goes to a presiding officer with a request it go to a privileges committee ought to, under those rules, do so at the earliest possible moment and ought to be given a little more time and made the recommendation:
That the following rules shall apply when a Member of either of the Houses—
That includes in this case, of course, a senator—
wishes to raise a matter of privilege or other contempt:
(a) The Member complaining shall, as soon as reasonably practicable after the matter in question comes to his notice, give notice thereof to the Presiding Officer of his House ...
Of course the presiding officer will look to see that the matter has been dealt with as soon as reasonably practicable.
You, Mr President, knew full well that the accusations raised in Senator Kroger's petition to you had not only been raised but that judgment had been made on those matters in this chamber by Senators Brandis and Abetz in July. It is there on the Hansard record. Five months had elapsed. In the time-honoured requirements not just of justice but of proper procedure, you ought to have ruled the matter out then and there because it had not been brought to your notice as soon as practicable. To have done that, the proposal from Senator Kroger would have come to you in July of last year. But it did not.
Moreover—and you knew this, Mr President—it was brought to you in the last sitting week of the year so that there could not be an adequate response from Senator Milne or me, and certainly the Committee of Privileges could not look at this matter expeditiously but would have to leave it right over summer.
It was effectively a slap writ, the form of writ now outlawed in many states of the United States as well as the Australian Capital Territory simply because of the inherent unfairness. But you did not. You recommended to the Senate that the matter proceed to Privileges and, almost without exception, as all procedural manuals will point out, when that happens the matter does proceed to Privileges—but to be left right over the Christmas break.
What you did not do, Mr President, was look at that Hansard in July in which Senator Brandis, as well as Senator Abetz, had adjudged both Senator Milne and I quite falsely guilty of this concocted charge. At that point, you ought to have recognised that Senator Brandis, as a member of the Privileges Committee, was no longer a proper person to be on that committee making judgment on this matter—he had already judged it. You will know, sir, that you were going to be contacted about that matter before Christmas, but had taken no action whatever.
I inform the chamber that in consequence of these events coming from this Senate chamber—and I reiterate, these are criminal matters with potential penalties of six months in jail and many thousands of dollars in fines—they ought to be dealt with with the same probity and rules of fairness as a court of law. Until 1987 the courts were very loath to intervene on matters of privilege in the parliament. But in 1987 this parliament passed the Privileges Act and, in doing so, it acknowledged the seriousness of matters like those currently before this chamber and, effectively, made them appellable to the courts. That means—and the parliament acknowledged it—that a fair and proper judicial outcome was required of this parliament, this chamber, this President and this Privileges Committee.
I ask you, sir, how can such an outcome come from a committee of which one of the members has already adjudged the accused guilty before hearing one word of evidence before the committee? I ask you, Mr President, why didn't you ask either me or Senator Milne for a response to this matter before you moved to judgment? I ask you, did you properly assess this matter on the basis that a reasonable person would see that the matter was one beyond reasonable doubt, because you are you were required to do so, and you failed to do that.
I inform the chamber that because of the seriousness of this matter, Senator Milne and I have, as the act provides, engaged legal counsel. The letters that the President tabled, and that we now have agreement from the opposition to be put into Hansard, will show that the President and the committee had been informed—and I am not going to go into detailed matters concerning correspondence to the committee—and they know that we are retaining legal senior counsel.
I can inform the chamber that tomorrow a letter will go to the Committee of Privileges, which outlines in very clear legal argument why Senator Brandis should recuse himself from the Committee of Privileges, and I remind the chamber that that matter is appellable. If, sir, you, The President, or if any member of the opposition or elsewhere in this chamber believes that either Senator Milne or I would take this political ambush, this unprecedented abuse of the privileges system, this failure of presidential prudence and a requirement for caution and legal level of judgment, sitting down or on the chin, you are wrong.
I am not just here to defend myself or Senator Milne. We are here to defend proper process in this Senate. One of the things that I will furnish, as well as the letter being furnished tomorrow to the committee, is a set of proper processes so that no President in the future makes such a remarkable error of judgment as this President made in referring this matter to the Committee of Privileges, effectively, through the Senate, but failing to do the same with more compelling cases of the same variety regarding Senators Boswell, Joyce and Cash. This Senate has been served badly by this process. I am not here just to defend myself, but I will. I am here to uphold the proper process, the dignity and the legal requirements of this Senate and its Privileges Committee. And I will. And our legal counsel will. I would remind the chamber that there is provision—and it ought to be considered properly—for the funding of the legal defence of such a serious matter against elected members of this parliament as the senator brought to the President, who then took it to the Senate, which took it to the Privileges Committee.
This is no light matter. I suggest that it is a political quarrel coming from Senator Abetz, well known for his antipathy both to Senator Milne and to me, and that it has inadvertently, through bad judgement, poor presidency, poor advice or an inability to defend the proper process in this Senate, been taken up and, effectively, embellished and made into a much bigger issue by the failure of the umpire, the President of the Senate.
Mr President: you not only erred, you have made an egregious mistake here. The best that will come out of this is the recommendations that we put forward to the committee and to the Senate to see that this does not occur again. But your ruling was wrong and I dissent from it. Mr President, you have had time to reflect on it, although apparently over this long break you have been absent from the matter because you have not responded to letters in a timely fashion.
I have been engaged in it. I have been in this Senate for a long, long time and I have not seen a failure of presidential authority, wisdom and the requirement to be up to the mark as we have seen on this occasion. So be it. But, sir, you have made a mistake. We are not going to endorse that mistake and we dissent from your ruling.