

- Title
NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK COMPANIES BILL 2010
TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK MEASURES—ACCESS ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2011
In Committee
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
24-03-2011
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
43
- Electorate
Queensland
- Interjector
Hutchins, Sen Steve (The TEMPORARY CHAIRMAN)
- Page
1984
- Party
LP
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Stage
In Committee
- Type
- Context
Bills
- System Id
chamber/hansards/2011-03-24/0467
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Hansard
- Start of Business
- COMMITTEES
- WILD RIVERS (ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT) BILL 2010
- BUSINESS
- DEFENCE FORCE RETIREMENT AND DEATH BENEFITS AMENDMENT (FAIR INDEXATION) BILL 2010
- BUSINESS
- PETITIONS
- NOTICES
- COMMITTEES
- BUSINESS
- NOTICES
- COMMITTEES
- PARLIAMENTARY ZONE
- ROYAL COMMISSION INTO ABORIGINAL DEATHS IN CUSTODY
- TASMANIAN FORESTRY NEGOTIATIONS
- WORLD TUBERCULOSIS DAY
- TAXATION
- COMMITTEES
- AUSTRALIAN LEARNING AND TEACHING COUNCIL
- TOBACCO
- ALPINE NATIONAL PARK
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Carbon Pricing
(Brandis, Sen George, Evans, Sen Chris) -
Mining
(Sterle, Sen Glenn, Evans, Sen Chris) -
Carbon Pricing
(Kroger, Sen Helen, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Japan Natural Disasters
(Ludlam, Sen Scott, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Home Insulation Program
(Ryan, Sen Scott, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Taxation
(Hutchins, Sen Steve, Sherry, Sen Nick) -
Health
(Williams, Sen John, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Family Relationship Services
(Fielding, Sen Steve, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Tasmanian Forestry
(Colbeck, Sen Richard, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Mining
(Marshall, Sen Gavin, Wong, Sen Penny)
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Carbon Pricing
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: ADDITIONAL ANSWERS
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
- COMMITTEES
- BUSINESS
- SENATE TEMPORARY ORDERS
- BILBIES
- BUSINESS
- DOCUMENTS
- COMMITTEES
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NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK COMPANIES BILL 2010
TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK MEASURES—ACCESS ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2011- Second Reading
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In Committee
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Division
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Division
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- COMMITTEES
- BUSINESS
-
NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK COMPANIES BILL 2010
TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (NATIONAL BROADBAND NETWORK MEASURES—ACCESS ARRANGEMENTS) BILL 2011-
In Committee
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Procedural Text
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Parry, Sen Stephen
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Bushby, Sen David
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Bushby, Sen David
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Williams, Sen John
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Williams, Sen John
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Williams, Sen John
- Division
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Eggleston, Sen Alan
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Fisher, Sen Mary Jo
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Division
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Division
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Third Reading
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In Committee
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APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 3) 2010-2011
APPROPRIATION BILL (NO. 4) 2010-2011 - ADVANCE TO THE FINANCE MINISTER
- CIVIL DISPUTE RESOLUTION BILL 2010
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BROADCASTING LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (DIGITAL DIVIDEND AND OTHER MEASURES) BILL 2011
CUSTOMS AMENDMENT (SERIOUS DRUGS DETECTION) BILL 2011
ELECTRONIC TRANSACTIONS AMENDMENT BILL 2011
MILITARY REHABILITATION AND COMPENSATION AMENDMENT (MRCA SUPPLEMENT) BILL 2011
REMUNERATION AND OTHER LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2011
TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2011 MEASURES NO. 1) BILL 2011
THERAPEUTIC GOODS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (COPYRIGHT) BILL 2011 - DOCUMENTS
- ADJOURNMENT
- Adjournment
- DOCUMENTS
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QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
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Electronic Gaming Machines
(Humphries, Sen Gary, Sherry, Sen Nick) -
Attorney-General, Home Affairs, Justice, Privacy and Freedom of Information: Stationery
(Humphries, Sen Gary, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy
(Humphries, Sen Gary, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Attorney-General, Home Affairs, Justice, and Privacy and Freedom of Information
(Humphries, Sen Gary, Ludwig, Sen Joe) -
Resources and Energy, and Tourism
(Humphries, Sen Gary, Sherry, Sen Nick) -
Automotive Market Access Program
(Colbeck, Sen Richard, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Automotive Supply Chain Development Program
(Colbeck, Sen Richard, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Green Car Innovation Fund
(Colbeck, Sen Richard, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Christmas Island
(Hanson-Young, Sen Sarah, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Immigration and Citizenship: Migration
(Cash, Sen Michaelia, Carr, Sen Kim)
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Electronic Gaming Machines
Page: 1984
Senator IAN MACDONALD (6:09 PM)
—I want to confirm, as Senator Birmingham has, that this is far better than the original. It makes me wonder why the government did not pick this up because I am concerned about what the government has been telling us. For example, someone who has been watching this debate and who has some expertise because they worked with the telecommunications industry in Japan has emailed me to confirm that what Senator Conroy has been telling us about satellites—trying to bully us with his greater knowledge—is completely wrong. I will read out, for the benefit of the Senate, this information given to me which compares Japan with the United States:
Japan is unique to the U.S. in that it suffers a significantly larger amount of earthquakes. Therefore, it is very important for the country to have a communication infrastructure that can withstand such major natural disasters. Also unlike the United States the Japanese Government directly funds their satellite internet networks. A couple years ago Japan launched what was known as the KIZUNA satellite, with the primary intent of creating a backup high-speed internet networking system that would replace its ground network during natural disasters. As it turns out this satellite is quite capable of facilitating a stand-alone high speed internet network. This satellite contains two antennas …
I will not go into that, but it goes on to say:
Dividing the satellite into two multibeam antennas allows it to efficiently divide up the satellite’s signal so that the limited frequencies can be made available and reused by many different areas. This new satellite will provide high-speed internet with download speeds of—
Senator Conroy, I hope you are listening—
… 155mbps and upload speeds of 6mbps. The satellite will be able to provide download speeds of up to 1.2gbps to commercial customers. These types of speeds are significantly faster than what even today’s fiber optics internet networks can provide and are unheard of speeds for the satellite internet industry. In addition to functioning as a communication network backup system this new satellite internet service will also target Japan’s rural citizens that do not have access to the country’s fiber optic network and have been forced to receive internet service via DSL.
I only raised that to show that all of Senator Conroy’s bluff and bluster throughout this NBN debate is predicated on him having all the knowledge and no-one else being able to challenge him. And yet here is an email from someone—I do not know the person but I accept that he has some expertise in this—who tells us that what Senator Conroy was telling us just quarter of an hour ago about satellites and their limitations is simply wrong. That demonstrates the whole farce of Senator Conroy’s NBN proposal. Technology is moving so quickly that who knows where it will end up tomorrow, in a week’s time, in a month’s time or in a year’s time.
According to this information, which I accept as being accurate, the new satellite provides download speeds of 150 megabits and upload speeds of six, and it provides high-speed internet of 1.2 gigabits to commercial customers. I think this is probably accurate and whether it is precise does not really matter. What does matter is that Senator Conroy has just spent half an hour telling me, Senator Joyce and Senator Fisher that you cannot get these fast speeds and services from the satellite. However, from the information sent to me it appears that you can. The information seems genuine. The guy has actually rung my office and indicated that he has worked in the industry in Japan. I take him at his word. Whether or not the precise details are right, it demonstrates that a lot of what Senator Conroy tells us is not as accurate as he would have us believe. Going back to the amendment before the chair at the moment, I certainly support the position that Senator Birmingham has indicated.
Question agreed to.