

- Title
TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (COMPETITION AND CONSUMER SAFEGUARDS) BILL 2010
In Committee
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
25-11-2010
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
43
- Electorate
South Australia
- Interjector
Brandis, Sen George
- Page
2311
- Party
LP
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Stage
In Committee
- Type
- Context
Bills
- System Id
chamber/hansards/2010-11-25/0221
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Hansard
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- BUSINESS
- TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (COMPETITION AND CONSUMER SAFEGUARDS) BILL 2010
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Labor Government
(Abetz, Sen Eric, Evans, Sen Chris) -
New Zealand: Mine Explosion
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Evans, Sen Chris) -
Broadband
(Brandis, Sen George, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation
(Milne, Sen Christine, Carr, Sen Kim) -
Broadband
(Ronaldson, Sen Michael, Conroy, Sen Stephen) -
Soccer World Cup
(Cameron, Sen Doug, Arbib, Sen Mark) -
Broadband
(Cormann, Sen Mathias, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Banking
(Fielding, Sen Steve, Wong, Sen Penny) -
Broadband
(Macdonald, Sen Ian, Conroy, Sen Stephen)
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Labor Government
- TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (COMPETITION AND CONSUMER SAFEGUARDS) BILL 2010
- DISTINGUISHED VISITORS
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TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (COMPETITION AND CONSUMER SAFEGUARDS) BILL 2010
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In Committee
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Cormann, Sen Mathias
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Ronaldson, Sen Michael
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Macdonald, Sen Ian
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Cash, Sen Michaelia
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Barnett, Sen Guy
- Trood, Sen Russell
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Ronaldson, Sen Michael
- Cameron, Sen Doug
- Ronaldson, Sen Michael
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Bishop, Sen Mark
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Ronaldson, Sen Michael
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Lundy, Sen Kate
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Sterle, Sen Glenn
- Ferguson, Sen Alan
- Wong, Sen Penny
- Lundy, Sen Kate
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In Committee
- BUSINESS
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TELECOMMUNICATIONS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (COMPETITION AND CONSUMER SAFEGUARDS) BILL 2010
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In Committee
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Division
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Division
- Procedural Text
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Xenophon, Sen Nick
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Birmingham, Sen Simon
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
- Joyce, Sen Barnaby
- Ludlam, Sen Scott
- Conroy, Sen Stephen
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In Committee
- Adjournment
- QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
Page: 2311
Senator BIRMINGHAM (9:10 PM)
—by leave—I move opposition amendments (20), (21) and (23) on sheet 7004 together:
(20) Schedule 1, item 30, page 13 (lines 17 and 18), omit “the associated provisions”, substitute “subsection 577BC(2)”.
(21) Schedule 1, item 30, page 13 (line 24), omit “the associated provisions”, substitute “subsection 577BC(2)”.
(23) Schedule 1, item 30, page 14 (lines 3 to 5), omit the definition of associated provision.
We also oppose schedule 1 in the following terms:
(30) Schedule 1, item 30, page 18 (line 17) to page 25 (line 5), section 577BA TO BE OPPOSED.
(44) Schedule 1, item 33, page 75 (line 34) to page 76 (line 5), item TO BE OPPOSED.
As we see it, this is probably one of the most important parts of the amendments to be proposed to this legislation. I have referred to it already with regard to Senator Xenophon’s previous amendments. These relate very much to ensuring that we maintain the normal operation of the Competition and Consumer Act and that the ACCC—the protectors of competition, fair trade and fair practice in this country—get a decent opportunity to have proper oversight of the deal between NBN Co. and Telstra. We want to make sure that this arrangement does protect the interests of consumers, does promote competition, is a fair and good one, and is one that is in the national interest. As we have flagged before, we are not against structural separation—we are not against this proceeding—but we want to make sure that it proceeds in a proper way. We want to make sure that it is a good arrangement for everyone concerned—consumers and the nation—and that it is one that will promote proper competition into the future and not at all inhibit proper competition.
Unfortunately, the government, through the way they have structured this legislation, seek to have extraordinary powers to dictate the terms on which the ACCC will consider the proposed deal between NBN Co. and Telstra. By dictating it, we will give the government quite unfettered powers. And regrettably, as a result of the division just had in this place, where we saw all of the crossbenchers side with the government, those unfettered powers have all been put in the hands of the minister to make rules that will limit the extent of consideration by the ACCC of the effectiveness and fairness of this deal. We do not think that is the right thing. We do not believe the minister should have those unfettered powers. It is regrettable in the extreme that the crossbenchers, who so often talk about and champion the power of the parliament and talk about the need for government accountability to the parliament, decided on this occasion to not make the government accountable to the parliament.
Here they get a second chance in a sense, not through disallowable instruments but through reinstating the normal operative provisions of the Competition and Consumer Act—the former Trade Practices Act—and the ACCC. In doing that, we can ensure that consumers are looked after, that the telco industry is looked after and that, most importantly, competition is promoted in a fair and transparent way. There should be nothing for the government to fear from this. There should be nothing for NBN Co. to fear from this. Parties of all persuasions have for many years, since the Trade Practices Act was first passed around the year of my birth—
Senator Brandis interjecting—
Senator BIRMINGHAM
—In fact, in the year of my birth—thank you, Senator Brandis. The Trade Practices Act has been supported, enhanced and bettered by people on both sides of politics. Rather regrettably, it has also been renamed by the current government.
However, this legislation has grown and has brought about, we believe, the operation of an organisation—the ACCC—that has the skills, the capacity and the know-how to make sure that these arrangements and deals are competitive and work for consumers. I would urge the crossbenchers, whom I suspect have already predetermined their position on these amendments, to think again and to realise that they have each played a role in championing the cause of good competition legislation in this country and that they have each played a role in promoting the role of the ACCC and building that role up. I know that Senator Xenophon in particular is a strong advocate for the role of the ACCC and is deeply involved in many ways. He has passed some amendments that help to make a bad policy less bad. We think it would be far preferable to abandon the bad policy of shutting out the ACCC and to actually give them the opportunity to examine this deal just as they would any other deal.