Senator JOYCE (Leader of the Nationals in the Senate) (9:10 PM) —I have another quick question on this age of light. We know that from your gross debt figure you take off an amount known as ‘other’ to come back to your net debt figure. Seeing as we are living in this age of light and you have got your two good assistants beside you: what is the amount that you now have in ‘other’ that is taken off your gross debt figure to get to your net debt figure? Can you please tell me what makes up that figure of ‘other’? The Department of the Treasury refuses to answer my letter that was given to them in Senate estimates almost half a year ago. Can you tell me two things: what is in the figure ‘other’ and what makes up that figure of ‘other’?