Senator LUDWIG (Minister for Human Services) (10:18 AM) —Can I say, Senator Siewert, you have sifted through this very carefully. I am advised that a shift from six to three no show, no pay failures is likely to result in more CCAs. I think that logically would follow. Whether—and this is the dependent point—this will represent more eight-week non-payment penalties is, quite frankly, an unknown factor because of the matters that I spoke of before because we will not know the basis of the noncompliance until the CCA has taken place. That is the importance of having the CCA there. It could result, for example, in earlier diagnosis of mental illness, which ultimately would result in fewer penalties, or a range of other circumstances which flow from that.