Senator ELLISON (Minister for Justice and Customs) (12:44 PM) —I can advise the committee that, in the particular instance that Senator Brown has raised, the person concerned is not an Australian national and does not reside in Australia. Therefore, that person would not be subject to the laws of Australia. It is as simple as that. Certainly you could argue that the royalties are received here, but the question is: whom do they attach to? Do they attach to someone in Australia? No, they do not. Do they attach to someone over whom we have jurisdiction? No, they do not. So the example that Senator Brown raises does not present itself in this bill. There may be some other cases where Australians are found in Australia to have been involved in terrorism offences, be they overseas or here, and if they are receiving those proceeds within our jurisdictional power then they would be seized.