

- Title
ADJOURNMENT
Vietnamese Community in Australia
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
15-06-2004
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
40
- Electorate
Victoria
- Interjector
- Page
23635
- Party
LP
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Tchen, Sen Tsebin
- Stage
Vietnamese Community in Australia
- Type
- Context
Adjournment
- System Id
chamber/hansards/2004-06-15/0234
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Hansard
- Start of Business
- COMMITTEES
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (PERSONAL INCOME TAX REDUCTION) BILL 2004
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Iraq: Treatment of Prisoners
(Faulkner, Sen John, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Environment: Policy
(Payne, Sen Marise, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Australian Crime Commission
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Howard Government: Family Policy
(Fifield, Sen Mitchell, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Taxation: Family Payments
(Collins, Sen Jacinta, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Health: Contraception
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Taxation: Family Payments
(Forshaw, Sen Michael, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Environment: Policy
(Lees, Sen Meg, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Taxation: Family Payments
(Moore, Sen Claire, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Transport: AusLink
(McGauran, Sen Julian, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Iraq: Treatment of Prisoners
(Hutchins, Sen Steve, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Indigenous Affairs: Commercial Ventures
(Ridgeway, Sen Aden, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Australian Crime Commission
(Wong, Sen Penny, Ellison, Sen Chris)
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Iraq: Treatment of Prisoners
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: ADDITIONAL ANSWERS
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE: TAKE NOTE OF ANSWERS
- PETITIONS
- NOTICES
- COMMITTEES
- NOTICES
- BERG, MR NICHOLAS
- CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME AWARENESS WEEK
- COOPERATIVE RESEARCH CENTRES
- COMMITTEES
- BUSINESS
- MINISTERIAL STATEMENT
- COMMITTEES
- DOCUMENTS
- LEAVE OF ABSENCE
- DOCUMENTS
- IMMIGRATION: DETENTION CENTRES
- COMMITTEES
- BUDGET
- COMMITTEES
- PETITIONS
- MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS
- COMMITTEES
- DELEGATION REPORTS
- COMMITTEES
- ABORIGINAL AND TORRES STRAIT ISLANDER COMMISSION AMENDMENT BILL 2004
- ANTI-TERRORISM BILL 2004
- BANKRUPTCY LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2004
- EXPORT MARKET DEVELOPMENT GRANTS AMENDMENT BILL 2004
- FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND VETERANS' AFFAIRS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (INCOME STREAMS) BILL 2004
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FARM HOUSEHOLD SUPPORT AMENDMENT BILL 2004
INDUSTRIAL CHEMICALS (NOTIFICATION AND ASSESSMENT) AMENDMENT (LOW REGULATORY CONCERN CHEMICALS) BILL 2004
SUPERANNUATION BUDGET MEASURES BILL 2004
TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (MEDICARE LEVY AND MEDICARE LEVY SURCHARGE) BILL 2004
TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2004 MEASURES NO. 2) BILL 2004
TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2004 MEASURES NO. 3) BILL 2004
CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (FUELS) BILL 2004
EXCISE TARIFF AMENDMENT (FUELS) BILL 2004 -
ELECTORAL AND REFERENDUM AMENDMENT (ACCESS TO ELECTORAL ROLL AND OTHER MEASURES) BILL 2004
ELECTORAL AND REFERENDUM AMENDMENT (ENROLMENT INTEGRITY AND OTHER MEASURES) BILL 2004
MEDICAL INDEMNITY (RUN-OFF COVER SUPPORT PAYMENT) BILL 2004
MEDICAL INDEMNITY LEGISLATION AMENDMENT (RUN-OFF COVER INDEMNITY AND OTHER MEASURES) BILL 2004
SUPERANNUATION LAWS AMENDMENT (2004 MEASURES NO. 1) BILL 2004
SUPERANNUATION LAWS AMENDMENT (2004 MEASURES NO. 2) BILL 2004
TOURISM AUSTRALIA BILL 2004
TOURISM AUSTRALIA (REPEAL AND TRANSITIONAL PROVISIONS) BILL 2004 - BUSINESS
- AGE DISCRIMINATION BILL 2003
- AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL POLICE AND OTHER LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2004
- POSTAL SERVICES LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2003
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PARLIAMENTARY SUPERANNUATION BILL 2004
PARLIAMENTARY SUPERANNUATION AND OTHER ENTITLEMENTS LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2004 - TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (PERSONAL INCOME TAX REDUCTION) BILL 2004
- ASSENT
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CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT (FUELS) BILL 2004
EXCISE TARIFF AMENDMENT (FUELS) BILL 2004 - POSTAL SERVICES LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 2003
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2004 MEASURES NO. 1) BILL 2004
- TAX LAWS AMENDMENT (2004 MEASURES NO. 2) BILL 2004
- ADJOURNMENT
- DOCUMENTS
- PROCLAMATIONS
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QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
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Treasury: Staff Absences
(Sherry, Sen Nick, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Agriculture: Livestock Identification
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Environment: Murrumbidgee Valley
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Agriculture: Grains Industry
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Agriculture: Herbicides
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Trade: Live Animal Exports
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Area Consultative Committees
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Sustainable Regions Program
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Australian Research Council: Energy Research and Development Projects
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Taxation: Avoidance Schemes
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Telstra: Staff
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Australian Broadcasting Corporation: Documentaries
(Santoro, Sen Santo, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
(Forshaw, Sen Michael, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Defence: Unanswered Questions
(Bishop, Sen Mark, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Immigration: Asylum Seekers
(Nettle, Sen Kerry, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Child Support Legislation: Administration
(Harris, Sen Len, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Communications: Local Content Broadcasting
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Australia Post: PostShops
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Australia Post: Occupational Health and Safety Policy
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Australia Post: Contractors
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Australia Post: Dividends
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Trade: Free Trade Agreement
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Telstra: Premium Services
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Telstra: Services
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Telstra: Dividends
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Telstra: Services and Staffing
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Telstra: Fax Stream
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Telstra: Directory Services
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Tourist Refund Scheme
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation: Community Survey
(Nettle, Sen Kerry, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Denison Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
National Radioactive Waste Repository
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Dawson Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(McLucas, Sen Jan, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Herbert Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(McLucas, Sen Jan, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Kennedy Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(McLucas, Sen Jan, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Leichhardt Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(McLucas, Sen Jan, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Taxation: Fuel Excise
(Brown, Sen Bob, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Diesel and Alternative Fuels Grants Scheme
(Brown, Sen Bob, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Diesel and Alternative Fuels Grants Scheme
(Brown, Sen Bob, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Diesel Fuel Rebate Scheme
(Brown, Sen Bob, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Diesel Fuel Rebate Scheme
(Brown, Sen Bob, Coonan, Sen Helen) -
Forde, Maranoa, Moncrieff, McPherson and Groom Electorates: Bulk-Billing
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
O'Connor Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Webber, Sen Ruth, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Moore Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Webber, Sen Ruth, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Deakin, Menzies, Corangamite and Gippsland Electorates: Bulk-Billing
(Marshall, Sen Gavin, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Education: Educational Textbook Subsidy Scheme
(Stott Despoja, Sen Natasha, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Immigration: Asylum Seekers
(Brown, Sen Bob, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Hindmarsh Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Bolkus, Sen Nick, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Barker Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Bolkus, Sen Nick, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Adelaide and Boothby Electorates: Bulk-Billing
(Wong, Sen Penny, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Solomon Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Crossin, Sen Trish, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Australian Public Service
(Harris, Sen Len, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry: Staff
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry: Staff Travel
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry: Advertising
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry: Consultants
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Immigration: Declared Countries
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Education: Learning Difficulties
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Transport: Vehicle Emission Standards
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Education: Enrolments
(Nettle, Sen Kerry, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Immigration: International Journalists
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Health: Complementary Healthcare Products
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Cooperative Research Centres
(Lees, Sen Meg, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Defence: Royal Australian Navy
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Riverina Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Macarthur Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Hume Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Gilmore Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Farrer Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Eden-Monaro Electorate: Bulk-Billing
(Stephens, Sen Ursula, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Immigration: Commonwealth Law
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Fisheries: Law Enforcement
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Cowper, Cunningham, Hughes, Mackellar, Page, Parkes and Warringah Electorates: Bulk-Billing
(Forshaw, Sen Michael, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Aviation: Air Safety
(Brown, Sen Bob, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Aviation: Melbourne Airport
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Medicare: Bulk-Billing
(Evans, Sen Chris, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Medicare: Bulk-Billing
(Evans, Sen Chris, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Rural and Regional Australia: Bulk-Billing
(Evans, Sen Chris, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Health and Ageing: Sponsorship Arrangements
(Evans, Sen Chris, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Treasury: Legal Services
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Defence: Legal Services
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Health and Ageing: Legal Services
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Agriculture, Fisheries and Forestry: Legal Services
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Defence: Depleted Uranium
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Medibank Private Ltd
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Social Welfare: Newstart and Youth Allowance
(Campbell, Sen George, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Taxation: Negative Gearing
(Brown, Sen Bob, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Immigration: Children
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Family Services: Child Care
(Collins, Sen Jacinta, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Health and Ageing: Wheelchairs
(Nettle, Sen Kerry, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Immigration: People-Smuggling
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Immigration: People-Smuggling
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Immigration: People-Smuggling
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Immigration: Detainees
(Marshall, Sen Gavin, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Health: Defend and Extend Medicare Group
(Marshall, Sen Gavin, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Health: Diagnostic Products
(Evans, Sen Chris, Campbell, Sen Ian) -
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Services: Disclosure of Information
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Taxation: Tobacco Franchise Fees
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Taxation: Tobacco Franchise Fees
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Forestry: Tasmania
(Brown, Sen Bob, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Iraq
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Foreign Affairs: Mr Kirk Pinner
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Centrelink: Payments
(Greig, Sen Brian, Patterson, Sen Kay) -
Defence: Exercise Sea Lion
(Bartlett, Sen Andrew, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Fisheries: Southern Supporter
(Bishop, Sen Mark, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
National Alternative Dispute Resolution Advisory Council
(Ludwig, Sen Joe, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Industry: Furniture Manufacture
(Brown, Sen Bob, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Foreign Affairs: Syria
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Australian Volunteers International: Funding
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Superannuation: Parliamentary Scheme
(Brown, Sen Bob, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Defence: Jindalee Operational Radar Network
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Taxation: Advertising Expenses
(Brown, Sen Bob, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Australia Post: Mail Dispatch Products
(Brown, Sen Bob, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Minister for Employment and Workplace Relations: Chief of Staff
(Allison, Sen Lyn, Abetz, Sen Eric) -
United Nations: Resolutions
(Lundy, Sen Kate, Hill, Sen Robert)
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Treasury: Staff Absences
Page: 23635
Senator TCHEN (10:16 PM)
—United Nations Security Council resolution 1500 marked a watershed in the world's recognition of the importance of the war in Iraq as part of the war on terrorism. Until this unanimous expression of world opinion, it had become increasingly commonplace for a parallel to be drawn between the Iraq war and the Vietnam War. Indeed, as far back as the beginning of 2003 that parallel was being drawn. I recall that my first experience of that parallel being drawn was in February 2003 when I attended the lunar new year festival, the Tet Festival, in Springvale, Victoria, where the then Leader of the Opposition used his address on this festive occasion to warn about embarking on a new Vietnam War. It was a rather incongruous gesture on his part, since most of his audience were refugees from that unfortunate country, but it has not stopped other people from drawing similar parallels since then.
Of course, there are parallels to be drawn between the Iraq war and the Vietnam War. In particular, they are both part of a wider conflict: Vietnam as part of the war against communism and Iraq as part of the war against terrorism. Hopefully we will see another parallel come to pass in due course when democracy triumphs against terrorism as it did against communism. There are just over 150,000 Australians who have at least one parent born in Vietnam. These people are the true victims of the Vietnam War. They were uprooted and expelled from their home country by their own people to make a new life in Australia, quite often making very good contributions to the community they now call home. Nevertheless, these people with their experience of the Vietnam War have never been called on by the people who are interested in drawing parallels with the war in Iraq to make comment about their experiences, just as nobody that I know of who complains about Australia's participation in this war in Iraq has ever thought of asking the opinions of the more than 30,000 Iraqis who live in Australia by grace of the regime of Saddam Hussein about Saddam Hussein and the justness of the war in Iraq.
But I do not want to talk about the Iraq war tonight; I want to talk about the Vietnamese Australians who are the true victims of the Vietnam War. The Vietnamese Australians have often been the most hurt by inaccurate depictions of the Vietnam War in history textbooks and public statements by politicians and media commentators, particularly at this time when they are pleased to draw the parallel between this past conflict and the current one we are involved in. The way it is portrayed is that Vietnamese Australians are usually described as being people on the side of the bad guys, the bad guys being the Americans and the Australians who should not have been there. They are described as people who worked for these bad guys or who supported a corrupt regime which could not sustain itself and then fled when it was overthrown by a principled revolution.
From the Vietnamese Australians' point of view, these are lies and half-truths which have victimised their community's sense of identity, particularly that of their families and the younger generations who were born in Australia. There is consistent concern amongst the older generation that, if perpetuated, this could damage their grandchildren's view about their parents and grandparents. I have received a letter from Dr Tien Nguyen, President of the Vietnamese Community in Australia, putting the view of the Vietnamese community about this propaganda. His letter to me says:
As we see it, the Vietnam War was a just war. It was the South defending itself against the North's ambition to grab its riches and to expand communist authoritarianism. South Vietnam lost, not because its soldiers were incapable or because communism was a principled cause, but because the West withdrew military supplies while Hanoi kept getting theirs from China and the Soviet Union.
The nightmares South Vietnam fought to prevent have now become reality. The Communist victors jailed more than a million people ...
This is not a fictitious claim. I have here a comment by the then Vietnamese Prime Minister, Pham Van Dong, being quoted by Jean-Claude Labbe of the Paris Match in September 1978, shortly after the fall of Vietnam. He said:
... we have liberated more than one million people who were guilty of collaborating with the enemy one way or another.
The Communist regime had `liberated' one million people who had cooperated with the enemy! That liberation was by jailing them and putting them in correctional work camps. They killed thousands, they flattened southern soldiers' cemeteries and declared that all lands belonged to the Communist Party. Dr Nguyen went on to say:
The regime is consistently among Asia's 3 most corrupt. Party bosses have amassed at least hundreds of millions of dollars. After 14 years of damaging policies, then 15 years of repair and billions in aid, per capita GDP is back to South Vietnam's pre-1975 levels.
That is not taking into account inflation. He continued:
Yet the many who loudly denounced Saigon or praised Hanoi, are now deafeningly silent. And, as the Iraq War debate goes on, many of the old untruths about the Vietnam War are again being repeated.
That is a matter that I think is of concern to all of us. While history never exactly repeats itself, we seem to have a habit of repeating the mistakes of history. Those people who like to draw parallels between the war in Iraq and the Vietnam War should be reminded that in fact many of the concerns which we had about Communist domination in Vietnam—that it would create a domino effect and other concerns—and which are today fashionably considered untrue were valid. Let me repeat something said by someone who should know—Lee Kuan Yew—stating that in fact the Vietnam War was necessary to protect our way of life. He said about Vietnam's impact on Singapore and the ASEAN region:
Although American intervention failed in Vietnam, it bought time for the rest of Southeast Asia. In 1965, when the US moved massively into South Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and the Philippines faced internal threats from armed communist insurgencies and the communist underground was still active in Singapore ... America's action enabled non-communist Southeast Asia to put their own houses in order. By 1975, they were in better shape to stand up to the communists. Had there been no US intervention, the will of these countries to resist them would have melted and Southeast Asia would most likely have gone communist. The prosperous emerging market economies of ASEAN were nurtured during the Vietnam War years.
This is from the book From Third World to First—The Singapore Story: 1965-2000 by Mr Lee Kuan Yew, published by HarperCollins in 2000. (Time expired)