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27-03-2003
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40
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Tasmania
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10340
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AG
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Final
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Brown, Sen Bob
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Legal and Constitutional References Committee
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chamber/hansards/2003-03-27/0092
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Senator BROWN (10:25 AM)
—I move:
That the following matters be referred to the Legal and Constitutional References Committee for inquiry and report by 15 May 2003:
(a) the legality of the Government's deployment of troops to Iraq;
(b) the likely implications for international law of this action;
(c) the constitutional changes necessary to ensure parliamentary consent for such deployments of Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel;
(d) the other mechanisms that could be used to require parliamentary consent for deployment of ADF personnel to hostilities overseas, such as changes to the Defence Act, as contained in the Defence Amendment (Parliamentary approval for Australian involvement in overseas conflict) Bill 2003 or the various other Defence amendment bills introduced by Australian Democrats senators since 1985; and
(e) whether such legislative or constitutional changes are desirable.
This is an important motion. I have had very many people ask me in recent weeks and months how it could be that the Prime Minister could deploy 2,000 Australian Defence Force personnel to Iraq without the permission and vote of the parliament. People in Australia have noted that the President of the United States was required to get a vote through both houses of the congress, which happened late last year, and that while the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, Tony Blair, was not required to do so, he did so, and put the vote to the parliament in the UK. But that did not happen in Australia. In this country, the Prime Minister used the silence of the Constitution on the matter to take unto himself the authority to deploy troops to the theatre of war—or potential war—even before the United Nations had made a determination on the matter.
This draws into very serious question the point of having a parliament at all as far as the Prime Minister is concerned. I have heard some correspondents—some opinion makers who should know better—say that the Prime Minister was elected to do such things. It needs to be pointed out that in this country the Prime Minister is not elected. Parliamentarians are elected, and within the party which wins the majority in the House of Representatives there is then a vote as to who will be the Prime Minister. The Prime Minister is not mentioned in the Constitution and nor is the executive as such. But in this situation we have rule by the executive—and that really means by the Prime Minister's office—and not by the parliament. This is a very important matter. The Constitution says that the defence forces of this country can be used to defend the Commonwealth and/or one of the states if they need to be defended and, of course, we would all agree with that. It is silent on the matter of Australian Defence Force personnel being used for the invasion of another country which does not present an ostensible threat, immediate or direct, to us.
From that comes the question of the legality of what the Prime Minister has done on this occasion. Whilst there is a vigorous debate on this matter, there is no doubt that the preponderance of international legal opinion and domestic legal opinion is that it is unlawful for Australia to be involved in the war in Iraq. This is an illegal war. I refer to an article in Monday's Australian by a barrister, Chris Maxwell, and Professor Hilary Charlesworth, who is the Director of the Centre of International and Public Law at the Australian National University in Canberra. It begins with these words:
The start of hostilities against Iraq must not be allowed to distract attention from the illegality of the war. This action, which is sought to be justified as enforcement of Iraq's international obligations, is itself a fundamental violation of international law.
To the question `Has the Security Council authorised this war?', there can only be one answer: of course not. The coalition of the willing refrained from seeking the Security Council's specific authorisation in the past few weeks precisely because they knew it would be refused. Their decision not to put a further resolution after 1441 was candidly explained to the world: a resolution authorising war would not have commanded even a majority of votes on the council.
And later the authors say:
As for the 1990 and 1991 resolutions—
which have been referred to by the Prime Minister—
the coalition is effectively saying: `We much prefer what the Security Council said about the first Gulf War and we'll pretend that it applies to unforeseen events 13 years later.' This is as ludicrous as if the US President had learnt that the necessary resolution authorising this war was not going to pass both houses of Congress, but had pressed ahead undaunted, calling on congressional resolutions endorsing the 1991 war.
So we must be more vigilant than ever, lest the members of the coalition be as careless with international law in their conduct of the war as they have shown themselves to be in launching it.
I refer to an article in the current Guardian and the Age on Wednesday, yesterday, by George Monbiot called, `One rule for them.' It is referring to the controversy about the request of the United States to ensure the Geneva convention is used by the Iraqi authorities in dealing with prisoners of war. Mr Monbiot comments:
Rumsfeld—
the Secretary of Defense—
had better watch his back. For this enthusiastic convert to the cause of legal warfare is, as head of the US Defense Department, responsible for a series crimes sufficient, were he ever to be tried, to put him away for the rest of his natural life.
His prison camp in Guantanamo Bay, on Cuba, where 641 men are held, breaches no fewer than 15 articles of the third convention. The US Government broke the first of these (article 13) as soon as the prisoners arrived, by displaying them, just as the Iraqis have done, on television. In this case, however, they were not encouraged to address the cameras. They were kneeling on the ground, hands tied behind their backs, wearing blacked-out goggles and earmuffs. In breach of article 18, they had been stripped of their own clothes and deprived of their possessions. They were then interned in a penitentiary (against article 22), where they were denied proper mess facilities (26), canteens (28), religious premises (34), opportunities for physical exercise (38), access to the text of the convention (41), freedom to write to their families (70 and 71) and parcels of food and books (72).
They were not `released and repatriated without delay after the cessation of active hostilities' (118), because, the US authorities say, their interrogation might, one day, reveal interesting information about al-Qaeda. Article 17 rules that captives are obliged to give only their name, rank, number and date of birth. No “coercion may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever”.
Mr Monbiot goes on to say:
The US Government claims these men are not subject to the Geneva Convention, as they are not `prisoners of war', but `unlawful combatants'. The same claim could be made, with rather more justice, by the Iraqis holding the US soldiers who illegally invaded their country.
And so on. These are matters of huge importance to this nation. We are involved at the behest of Prime Minister Howard. There has been no reference to the people, no reference to a vote, no weight of reference to this parliament. The Prime Minister has usurped the process of this democracy to involve us in an illegal war and we need, as the Senate, to be able to review that process. We need not only to review the legality—or indeed the illegality—of the Prime Minister's actions but to put in place, if we can, measures which will restore the authority of this parliament and make it clear that this parliament represents the people, not the Prime Minister. There should be a mechanism in this parliament, as there is in the American parliament, to ensure that we do not deploy troops to hostilities overseas without the authority of the elected representatives following a proper debate about what that means for this nation and where this nation's interest lies and what the consequences of such action should be.
Finally, I point to the opinion of Mr Brian Walters SC from Melbourne, whose opinion is under the heading, `The decision of the Australian government to join in an attack on Iraq.' The gravity of the situation is in his opening remarks. He says:
At the end of the Second World War, the victorious powers conducted war crimes trials at Nuremberg. The key defendants were charged with a number of offences, but the first charge involved conspiracy to commit crimes against peace in that the `defendants planned, prepared, initiated and waged wars of aggression which were also wars in violation of international treaties, agreements or assurances'.
Those convicted, including Hermann Goering and Joachim von Ribbentrop, were sentenced to death.
It follows that the debate as to the lawfulness of the prosecution of this war is not a matter of mere political significance. There may be legal consequences, and they may be of great seriousness for the individuals involved, including very lengthy terms of imprisonment (up to 30 years).
Further on, Mr Walters says:
The legal advice released by the Australian government is dated mid March 03—
that is the advice Mr Howard used to defend his position—
over two months after Australian forces left for the Gulf.
Note this:
The advice is not from the Solicitor-General, the law officer who normally provides independent advice to the government.
Concluding his opinion, Mr Walters has this to say:
After the Second World War, criticism was made of the Nuremberg trials that they constituted `victor's justice'. However, that situation has now been changed. The International Criminal Court has jurisdiction over war crimes and crimes against humanity and genocide. Moreover, on 27 June 2002, the Commonwealth of Australia enacted the International Criminal Court Act 2002 and the International Criminal Court (Consequential Amendment) Act 2002 in order to facilitate the implementation of that court. These statutes incorporate war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide into Australian domestic law.
The crime of aggression is recognised under the Rome Statute which establishes the International Criminal Court. The jurisdiction for this crime will not vest until 1 July 2009, in order to permit further clarification of the definition of the crime and the conditions under which the jurisdiction may be exercised. This probably amounts to a mere procedural delay, (although the point remains arguable). In other words, an act of aggression committed now may be prosecuted in the ICC once the jurisdiction vests. The present leaders of the Australian government accordingly run the risk of prosecution for the crime of aggression at a future time—whatever the outcome of the war.
Further, if reports that the attacking forces propose to adopt `shock and awe' tactics to coerce the civilian population to surrender are true, then those responsible for such tactics would commit war crimes and crimes against humanity whatever the legal justification for the war. Such crimes may be prosecuted forthwith. Such tactics, which are directed to the civilian population, are plainly proscribed and criminal. Proof of such charges will depend on the evidence available. However, public statements already made suggest an intention to commit war crimes as part of the prosecution of this attack on Iraq.
For sixty years the world has worked to develop a system of international law which involves collective decision-making before going to war. The system is not perfect, but is a great improvement on all that has gone before. Before the first US bombs have dropped on Iraq, Turkey is in the process of moving into the Kurdish section of Iraq. Turkey said, echoing the words of the US, that it could not leave the question of its self-defence to the UN.
If the US, with the help of the UK and Australia, discards the international rule book, this is precisely the kind of international pattern they can expect to develop.
Mr Walters concludes:
The action of the Australian government in joining in this illegal war is a grave act which will have serious and irretrievable consequences. In my opinion, it constitutes the commission of a crime.
These are serious and grave matters of international law. If we in Western democracies do not uphold international law, who will? There is an argument that international law needs to move on and be developed; that then is our responsibility. But to break international law—and arguably the most important law for the keeping of international order, the United Nations Charter itself— should not be countenanced. Yet, on the face of it, that is what has happened under the authority not of this parliament but of this Prime Minister.
The question of whether Australia's involvement is legal or illegal needs investigation. It is hugely important. It is going to be debated around the world not just for years but for decades to come. There are possibly very serious ramifications. It is not good enough to say, `The United States is a hyperpower, therefore it can do what it wants. Therefore, might is right.' With the United States and Great Britain, we constitute some six per cent of the world's population. The other 94 per cent is going to levy great influence on what happens as a result of this war, which, according to the preponderance of news reports, through sheer firepower, will end the regime in Iraq. But the legality of that process is under serious question.
The Senate committee system has evolved to ensure the interests of this nation are served by getting the best advice possible from the community and from the greatest expertise possible on matters of importance to this nation. What could be more important than whether or not we are legally involved in this war in Iraq and whether or not what is happening in Iraq is legal. The question is: ought a Prime Minister of this country, in an office which is not elected, be able to usurp the role of this parliament in determining the great issues of the day? Are we not drifting away from democracy towards dictatorship itself when the executive becomes the arbiter of whether and under what circumstances this country goes to war and parliament is left with nothing to do but to talk about it?
The Senate has a very heavy responsibility here. This move by the Greens to refer this matter to the proper and relevant committee is enormously important. We do not know how long this war will proceed. What we do know is that the ramifications of it are going to echo for many years to come. It is proper, it is impelling and it is absolutely important that we determine the legalities of this matter as soon as possible and that we also look at re-empowering the parliament, reasserting the constitutional implication that this parliament should make these decisions.
I for one am not prepared to allow that to be stolen through the night, stolen through this moment in time by Prime Minister Howard. This is a democracy. The Senate should uphold above all the democratic powers and rights of this parliament and not leave them for the executive to steal from this parliament. Whatever senators may think, these are matters of enormous importance both to the moment and to the values that we judge this parliament as having in a democracy. They are crucial, they are critical, and there must be a reassessment. The Senate is the right place to do it. I commend this motion and hope it will draw support from the government and the opposition, as well as the other parties and the Independents in this place.