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Monday, 3 March 2003
Page: 8920


Senator MURRAY (9:07 PM) —by leave—I move Democrat amendments (1) and (3):

(1) Schedule 1, item 1, page 3 (lines 4 and 5), omit the item, substitute:

1 Paragraph 87(1A)(b)

Omit “(other than section 45D or 45E)”, substitute “(other than section 45D, 45DB, 45DC, 45DD or 45E)”.

(3) Schedule 1, item 2, page 3 (lines 6 and 7), omit the item, substitute:

2 Paragraph 87(1B)(a)

Omit “(other than section 45D or 45E)”, substitute “(other than section 45D, 45DB, 45DC, 45DD or 45E)”.

I have done here what I spelt out in my speech in the second reading debate. I said then that the issue of sections 45D and 45E is—


The CHAIRMAN —Senator Murray, I understand the difficulty you are having—I am having it is well—with the conversation going on across the chamber. Senator Murray, please resume.


Senator MURRAY —My intent is to get the debate over as soon as possible, which I am sure the minister would like.


The CHAIRMAN —I understand that. It is my intent as well.


Senator MURRAY —I spelt this out in my speech during the second reading debate, so I do not really want to repeat it. The key problem with 45D and 45E is that they affect issues which are not competition related but which are related to the behaviour of employee organisations pursuing the issues of wages and conditions. However, 45DA specifically refers to the area of competition. We think the government would have a valid case if it focused on that area and we would support the change of the law that they envisage with respect to 45DA.