Senator BROWN (9:57 AM) —I ask the minister how that intent is actually formally expressed. It is sitting in the air. I thank the minister for his response to my question, but there is an uneasiness amongst non-government organisations and community groups that what at the outset begins as good intent can very easily be changed without legislative back-up. I understand from what the minister is saying that the jurisdictions involved, including New Zealand, have agreed that the lead minister on the council will be the minister for health and that the Australian minister will be chairing the council. I wonder if the minister can provide any information to the committee about how that intent is going to be cemented and carried through into the future.