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Thursday, 5 April 2001
Page: 23777


Senator IAN CAMPBELL (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Communications, Information Technology and the Arts) (10:46 AM) —Firstly, in relation to Senator Cook's prising of this information out of us, Senator Meg Lees issued a press release on 3 April in which she said:

... the rates generated used the same Econtech economic model utilised by the ACCC ...

That is on the public record, so I congratulate Senator Cook for his incisive prising out of this information using the floor of the committee!


Senator Cook —It is not on the Senate record.


Senator IAN CAMPBELL —Senator Murray and I have been very open about where the modelling came from and how it was paid for.


Senator Murray —We do not know about the brewers' model.


Senator IAN CAMPBELL —Exactly. Senator Cook can perhaps tell us the basis of the brewers' modelling. We do not know about the assumptions or the inputs that were put into the Econtech model. I do not know what assumptions and figures were put into the brewers' model which the Australian Labor Party picked up and took into the other place.

In terms of the Treasury modelling, quite frankly, I do not think it is relevant. We do not normally release Treasury modelling—it is very unusual to do so. When the previous Labor government had Treasury modelling done they—in my memory, and that is not always perfect—did not release it. We will not be releasing modelling. The fact of the matter is that it does not affect this amendment. The government have accepted the practical, pragmatic reality that if we are to get this bill through the Senate we will only do so with the support of the Democrats. We negotiated in good faith with the Democrats and accepted their figures. There is nothing more I can add to that.