Senator BROWN (10:32 AM) —Senator Bolkus is quite right. The committee can see that the government's own words are that the objects of the trust are, amongst other things, to cooperate with New South Wales—that is the government's clause, the minister's clause—and affected councils in furthering the preservation and protection of the Sydney Harbour region. The ALP amendment extends that to say that the trust should cooperate with New South Wales and the affected councils, as the government's amendment would have it, and the community in furthering those objects. So Senator Bolkus is right. I think the minister may have argued against his own government's position in saying that New South Wales should not be included there.

I would also like to get some understanding of the Democrats point of view. I ask whether or not the Democrats are in favour of the sale of parts of these lands in the future—a sale which would be excluded by these ALP amendments—and whether or not, Markham Close in Mosman, which is the housing component that Senator Bartlett has been talking about, is the end of it. Would the bill, as designed by the government and the Democrats, exclude any further potential sale down the line of any other properties besides these Mosman properties which Labor and the Greens are opposed to putting on the market? If not, I would like to know where the process ends.