Senator ELLISON (Special Minister of State) (5:40 PM) —As I have stated previously, the amendment proposed by the Democrats makes no distinction between division 2 and division 3 matters. When Senator Harris asked me his question, apart from when he asked about the manual that Senator Brown was referring to, he did say he was distinguishing this from the counterterrorist measures, which I think we all accept are not publicly available for a very good reason. We would say that, similarly, this amendment has in it no distinction between those counterterrorist measures and division 3 matters and therefore could provide a blueprint for operational matters relating to counterterrorist measures. That is what the government is saying about this amendment.