

- Title
COMMITTEES
Community Affairs References Committee
Report
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
08-12-1999
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
39
- Electorate
QLD
- Interjector
- Page
11443
- Party
ALP
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Gibbs, Sen Brenda
- Stage
Community Affairs References Committee
- Type
- Context
Committees
- System Id
chamber/hansards/1999-12-08/0155
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Hansard
- Start of Business
- SYDNEY HARBOUR FEDERATION TRUST BILL 1999
- BUSINESS
-
AUSTRALIA NEW ZEALAND FOOD AUTHORITY AMENDMENT BILL 1999 [NO. 2]
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In Committee
- Stott Despoja, Sen Natasha
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Tambling, Sen Grant
- Evans, Sen Chris
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Tambling, Sen Grant
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Stott Despoja, Sen Natasha
- Tambling, Sen Grant
- Stott Despoja, Sen Natasha
- Tambling, Sen Grant
- Stott Despoja, Sen Natasha
- Evans, Sen Chris
- Tambling, Sen Grant
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Stott Despoja, Sen Natasha
- Third Reading
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In Committee
- CONSIDERATION OF LEGISLATION
- SUPERANNUATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL (No. 4) 1999
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TAXATION LAWS AMENDMENT BILL (No. 8) 1999
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In Committee
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Hill, Sen Robert
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Campbell, Sen Ian
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
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In Committee
- MATTERS OF PUBLIC INTEREST
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Goods and Services Tax: Charitable Organisations
(Murphy, Sen Shayne, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Rural and Regional Australia: Initiatives
(Lightfoot, Sen Phillip, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Goods and Services Tax: Animal Sponsorships
(Conroy, Sen Stephen, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Crime Prevention: Achievements
(Coonan, Sen Helen, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Goods and Services Tax: Charitable Organisations
(Crowley, Sen Rosemary, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Rural and Regional Australia: Air Fares
(Greig, Sen Brian, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Goods and Services Tax: Gift Vouchers
(Cook, Sen Peter, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Goods and Services Tax: School Canteens
(Harris, Sen Len, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Goods and Services Tax: Charitable Organisations
(Sherry, Sen Nick, Kemp, Sen Rod) - Goods and Services Tax: Charitable Organisations
- Rural and Regional Australia: Air Fares
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Goods and Services Tax: Charitable Organisations
- PETITIONS
- NOTICES
- COMMITTEES
- NOTICES
- COMMITTEES
- GENETICALLY MODIFIED FOOD: LABELLING
- COMMITTEES
- AUSTRALIAN FEDERAL POLICE LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 1999
- FAMILY LAW AMENDMENT BILL 1999
- MINISTERIAL STATEMENTS
- COMMITTEES
- SENATORS' TRAVELLING ALLOWANCES
- PARLIAMENTARIANS' TRAVEL COSTS
- DELEGATION REPORTS
- COMMITTEES
- BUDGET 1999-2000
- DOCUMENTS
- BILLS RETURNED FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
- BILLS RETURNED FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
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TAXATION LAWS AMENDMENT BILL (No. 8) 1999
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In Committee
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Brown, Sen Bob
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Bartlett, Sen Andrew
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Faulkner, Sen John
- Kemp, Sen Rod
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Quirke, Sen John
- Sherry, Sen Nick
- Kemp, Sen Rod
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In Committee
- BUSINESS
- DOCUMENTS
- SUPERANNUATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL (No. 4) 1999
- NOTICES
- ADJOURNMENT
- DOCUMENTS
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QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
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Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Cost of Legal Advice from the Attorney-General's Department
(Faulkner, Sen John, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Travel Allowances
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Tasmania: Vocational Education and Training
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts: Cost of News Clipping Service
(Ray, Sen Robert, Alston, Sen Richard) -
Department of Industry, Science and Resources: Cost of News Clipping Service
(Ray, Sen Robert, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts: Departmental Liaison Officers
(Ray, Sen Robert, Alston, Sen Richard) -
Department of Family and Community Services: Departmental Liaison Officers
(Ray, Sen Robert, Newman, Sen Jocelyn) -
Department of Education, Training and Youth Affairs: Departmental Liaison Officers
(Ray, Sen Robert, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Department of Family and Community Services: Departmental Liaison Officers
(Ray, Sen Robert, Newman, Sen Jocelyn) -
Department of Communications, Information Technology and the Arts: Departmental Liaison Officers
(Ray, Sen Robert, Alston, Sen Richard) -
New Tax System Seminars: Advertising Costs
(Faulkner, Sen John, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
New Tax System Seminars: Cost
(Faulkner, Sen John, Kemp, Sen Rod) -
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission: Departmental Decisions Reviewed Under the Administrative Decisions Act
(Faulkner, Sen John, Herron, Sen John) -
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission: Departmental Decisions Reviewed Under Common Law
(Faulkner, Sen John, Herron, Sen John) -
Department of Industry, Science and Resources: Freedom of Information
(Faulkner, Sen John, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Department of Industry, Science and Resources: Internal Staff Development Courses
(Faulkner, Sen John, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Department of Industry, Science and Resources: External Staff Development Courses
(Faulkner, Sen John, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Department of Finance and Administration: Requests for Travel Allowance Receipts
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
National Greenhouse Strategy
(Bartlett, Sen Andrew, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Native Tree Revegetation
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Exploration Licences
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Western Sahara
(Bourne, Sen Vicki, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Choepel, Mr Ngawang
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Regional Australia Summit
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Regional Australia Summit
(Mackay, Sen Sue, Macdonald, Sen Ian) -
Duke Energy: Environmental Assessment
(Brown, Sen Bob, Hill, Sen Robert) -
Australian Flags: Members of Parliament Requests
(Faulkner, Sen John, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
Attorney-General's Department: Cost of Legal Advice
(Faulkner, Sen John, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Department of Industry, Science and Resources: Salaries
(Faulkner, Sen John, Minchin, Sen Nick) -
Attorney-General's Department: Salaries
(Faulkner, Sen John, Vanstone, Sen Amanda) -
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Commission: Salaries
(Faulkner, Sen John, Herron, Sen John) -
Prime Minister's Sydney Office: Tenders for Radio Studio
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Ellison, Sen Chris) -
East Timor: Allowances to Departmental Officers
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Hill, Sen Robert) -
East Timor: Military Personnel Allowances
(O'Brien, Sen Kerry, Newman, Sen Jocelyn)
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Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Cost of Legal Advice from the Attorney-General's Department
Page: 11443
Senator GIBBS (4:00 PM)
—I rise to speak on the report Rocking the cradle: a report into childbirth procedures . On listening to Senator Knowles's speech, I
would like to remind her that the terms of reference for this committee were approved by the Senate. The Community Affairs References Committee held six days of public hearings in Canberra, Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth. We received almost 200 submissions, which came from a wide range of organisations and individuals, including hospitals, health services, practitioners, independent and hospital based midwives, welfare and peak organisations, and individual mothers.
Over the past 10 years there have been inquiries and reports about childbirth services in New South Wales, Victoria, Western Australia and one from the National Health and Medical Research Council. Obviously, childbirth is an important issue in this country. Unfortunately, despite there being so many inquiries, few of the recommendations the various reports have made have been acted upon. With more than a quarter of a million babies born in Australia every year, childbirth is a very important part of the health of this nation. Childbirth is the major reason for hospitalisation in Australia, and it accounts for the highest number of occupied bed days. It is important that we make childbirth as safe as possible for both mother and child.
The committee found that childbirth in Australia is very safe, although maternal and infant mortality rates are significantly higher than average in indigenous communities. Across Australia there are about 5.3 maternal deaths per 100,000 births and approximately 5.9 infant deaths per 1,000 live births. In indigenous communities, the death rate for mothers is double and the death rate for infants is triple that of the non-indigenous community. Some of the reasons for those problems were best summed up in evidence given to the committee in Adelaide by a number of Aboriginal community health care workers.
Those health care workers told the committee that past policies had created a fear in indigenous women about going to hospital. There was also a feeling of isolation because Aboriginal women were amongst people they did not know, thus creating a sense of shame. The committee heard that many indigenous women have to travel long distances to receive medical attention, further exacerbating the problem. They will visit a doctor or hospital once and usually not return because they see the hospital as a place to go when you are sick, and they do not consider that being pregnant is being sick; they view pregnancy as a natural part of life. One of the specific recommendations that the committee made to combat this problem was that the Office of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Health provide recurrent funding to ensure continuity for existing antenatal programs for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women and to establish new programs in areas of need.
The committee received evidence that Australian women value safety during birth for their babies and themselves above all other considerations. For that reason, the large majority of expectant mothers choose to birth in hospitals. While most women acknowledge the contribution of the medical profession to the low mortality rates, they are concerned about increasing levels of medicalisation of childbirth. Mortality rates are relatively uniform across the country, with the exception of the indigenous population.
The rates of intervention, however, vary. Intervention rates are highest among women who have private health insurance, women who give birth in major tertiary hospitals and women attended by specialist obstetricians. The rates vary by state, with South Australia recording the highest rate of caesarean section. The committee was especially concerned by the high rate of elective caesarean section in Australia for which, the evidence suggests, there is little or no medical justification. The committee received no evidence that justified the significant variation in caesarean section rates between states, between hospitals and between public and private and patients.
The committee did receive some evidence that caesareans were on the increase because of a rise in defensive medicine—a practice whereby doctors provide a service that is not needed because of a concern about possible litigation should a problem with the birth occur. The committee is of the strong view that there is a need for national leadership to reduce caesarean section rates. The committee supports the development of best practice guidelines on interventions and other aspects of maternal and infant care. Such guidelines would improve the quality of care, reduce the use of unnecessary, ineffective services and ensure that care is cost effective.
There is also concern among the committee members about the polarisation of views that emerged during the course of the inquiry. Some witnesses indicated that caesarean sections and other interventions should be available to women on demand, regardless of any medical indication of need. Other witnesses felt that all forms of medical intervention were overused. Many people recognised that an intermediate position was likely to prove most beneficial to women. The committee heard that, where cooperation between midwives and specialists is common, women's satisfaction with the birth experience was enhanced without sacrificing safe and successful outcomes.
We found that the best examples of this middle ground occurred in birth centres. In birth centres, women considered to be at low risk gave birth in home-like surroundings, attended by midwives but with specialist support available should problems arise during birth. Everywhere the committee went, we discovered birth centres that were oversubscribed. They were full to overflowing because of the desire by women for a less medical approach to childbirth, without sacrificing the benefits of medical advances as they became available. Unfortunately, it seems, there is not much effort being made to move resources from expensive interventions, including caesarean sections, to birth centres.
The committee found that the current arrangements for antenatal, birth and postnatal care increased the fragmentation of services. The existing funding arrangements break that care into episodes centred on various care providers. The evidence we received indicated that women would receive much better outcomes if they had continuity of carers throughout the process.
There was also disturbing evidence that a significant and increasing proportion of funding is spent on ultrasound scanning. The committee found that the most recent figures from the Health Insurance Commission, which excludes services provided by hospital doctors to public patients in public hospitals, show that in the period July 1998 to June 1999 expenditure was $38.6 million on ultrasound, almost all of it routine scanning; $27.6 million on labour and delivery, including complex births, caesarean sections and immediate postnatal care; and $30 million on antenatal visits.
Quite a few witnesses voiced the same concerns as the Royal North Shore Hospital, which told the committee:
Of particular concern is the cost of numerous ultrasound examinations. It is our current experience that it is not unusual for women to have undergone three ultrasound examinations before their pregnancy reaches 20 weeks of gestation.
The committee believes the use of ultrasound screening needs to be evaluated as soon as possible. The women of Australia need to know that this procedure is being used properly within clear best practice guidelines. Lowering the use, and therefore the cost, of ultrasound screening may provide a source for funding in other antenatal, birth and postnatal support areas, but I stress that the first step is a full and proper evaluation of ultrasound screening. The committee was also concerned about the increasing trend to discharge new mothers and infants from hospital early. Evidence provided to the committee suggested that, rather than reducing health care costs, early discharge may actually increase them in the longer term.
In summary, let me say that the 35 recommendations made in this report will not provide all the answers. The government, the community and expectant mothers in particular need to maintain interest in the area and to continue to debate, discuss and discover what practices are the best for mother and child.
Question resolved in the affirmative.