Senator LEES (7:32 PM) —We can find very little, if any, support for this particular amendment. Not even the Consumers Association, which has been interested in this, supports it. Basically, the evidence is, I think, there. You say the information is sketchy on young people moving in and out. Basically, there is very little interest from young people. Whether the government provides them with an incentive or a disincentive it is still a very small number of people. I do not know why. I have not looked through the whys and wherefores. Perhaps it is because the parents of some young people had them insured and the young people just roll it on. But there seems to be a very small number, and that number will be paid for by others. It will not increase, I would argue, on the evidence of the number of young people joining, so a group that was already there will be subsidised at a cost to those who are older and in the pool. Firstly, I just cannot see where the support generally is for this amendment and, secondly, what it is going to achieve.