Senator TROETH (9:26 PM) —I hope the chamber will take note of the fact that it took Senator Forshaw some five minutes to read through the proposed functions and membership of the council. It is a very detailed prescription. The government considers it far too prescriptive. It goes well beyond the Forest Products Advisory Council which the government was proposing. Our Forest Products Advisory Council, by contrast, would allow consultation with all the stakeholders but not in such a prescriptive way that it would become a straitjacket type prescriptiveness. We believe it can only lead to problems and therefore we are opposing this amendment.