Senator HARRADINE (11:34 AM) —I am a little more inclined, after this debate, to be supporting Senator Chris Evans. If you have a situation where somebody wants to have a mole removed and they go to a GP who suggests that the person can wait and go into a public hospital to have the job done, then, being uninsured, that person would not be up for any costs at the public hospital. But if the doctor says it can be done quicker in the community approved facility, that person, being uninsured, would be up for a cost. Is that correct? If that is correct—I think that is the point which other honourable senators have been talking about—does it mean that sort of practice will become more widespread and doctors and others will be encouraging patients to use the community facilities more and more?

On the other hand, as I see it, those who would have the procedure done in an approved facility will be at no disadvantage than had they gone to a private hospital. It does not seem to me that there will be any difference. The gap might be more in a private hospital, but there does not seem to me to be a disadvantage there to those people. There does seem to be a disadvantage for an uninsured person to, say, have the mole removed in the approved facility in the community as against having it done in the public hospital. That is the question that I am asking the minister.