Senator ELLISON (Minister for Schools, Vocational Education and Training)(6.29 p.m.) —At the outset let me say that there is no proposal for any sort of HECS-type fee for TAFE. I correct that error if there is any inference that there might be. In relation to the underfunding, my understanding is that it was predicated on the need for growth. That is a motherhood statement. There is always need for growth in this area. It was predicated on that and not that there was an underfunded situation. Maybe we are coming at this from two different angles, but that is how I understood the report to be framed.