

- Title
PRODUCTIVITY COMMISSION BILL 1996
PRODUCTIVITY COMMISSION (REPEALS, TRANSITIONAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) BILL 1996
In Committee
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
03-09-1997
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
38
- Electorate
WA
- Interjector
CHAIRMAN
- Page
6249
- Party
G(WA)
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Senator MARGETTS
- Stage
- Type
- Context
Bill
- System Id
chamber/hansards/1997-09-03/0035
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PRODUCTIVITY COMMISSION BILL 1996
PRODUCTIVITY COMMISSION (REPEALS, TRANSITIONAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) BILL 1996-
In Committee
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator MARGETTS
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator HARRADINE
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator MURRAY
- Senator CAMPBELL
- Senator SHERRY
- Senator COONEY
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In Committee
- MATTERS OF PUBLIC INTEREST
- QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Greenhouse Gases
(Senator KNOWLES, Senator HILL) -
Constitutional Convention: Appointed Delegates
(Senator BOLKUS, Senator HILL) -
Australian Financial System
(Senator BOSWELL, Senator KEMP) -
Constitutional Convention
(Senator ROBERT RAY, Senator HILL) -
Small Business: Interest Rates
(Senator MURRAY, Senator KEMP) -
Constitutional Convention: Appointed Delegates
(Senator McKIERNAN, Senator HILL) -
Taxation: Families
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Department of Veterans' Affairs: Agency Agreement
(Senator SHERRY, Senator NEWMAN) -
Australian National: Sale
(Senator CALVERT, Senator ALSTON) -
Women in Sport Awards
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Universities: Funding
(Senator STOTT DESPOJA, Senator VANSTONE)
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Greenhouse Gases
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- PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
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- PETITIONS
- NOTICES OF MOTION
- ORDER OF BUSINESS
- LIVE SHEEP EXPORTS
- LEAVE OF ABSENCE
- COMMITTEES
- RESERVE BANK OF AUSTRALIA
- LEAVE OF ABSENCE
- COMMITTEES
- FIRST SPEECH
- TEMPORARY CHAIRMEN OF COMMITTEES
- COMMITTEES
- DOCUMENTS
- NOTICES OF MOTION
- COMMITTEES
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FRANCHISE FEES WINDFALL TAX (COLLECTION) BILL 1997
FRANCHISE FEES WINDFALL TAX (IMPOSITION) BILL 1997 -
FRANCHISE FEES WINDFALL TAX (CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) BILL 1997
SALES TAX (CUSTOMS) (ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES) BILL 1997
SALES TAX (EXCISE) (ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES) BILL 1997
SALES TAX (GENERAL) (ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES) BILL 1997
SALES TAX ASSESSMENT AMENDMENT BILL 1997
EXCISE TARIFF AMENDMENT BILL (No. 3) 1997
CUSTOMS TARIFF AMENDMENT BILL (No. 3) 1997 - ORDER OF BUSINESS
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PRODUCTIVITY COMMISSION BILL 1996
PRODUCTIVITY COMMISSION (REPEALS, TRANSITIONAL AND CONSEQUENTIAL AMENDMENTS) BILL 1996 - ADJOURNMENT
- Adjournment
- DOCUMENTS
- QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
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Senator MARGETTS(10.28 a.m.)
—I would like to put a viewpoint based on a heretical standpoint in relation to economic modelling. My standpoint comes from studying most of my economics at the University of East Anglia. The advisers seem to think that is funny. The University of East Anglia looked at economics from the viewpoint that it is not a science—and it is not. It is not even a social science. It is actually a theoretical construct, and it actually also is very much based on what philosophical viewpoint you come from.
In terms of development studies, economics could be looked at from a variety of different viewpoints depending on where you start in your assumption. You could actually have, and we did have, an economics text which was written in three columns which looked at three different theories of economics. Every issue that is brought up with an economic theory can be looked at depending on what your basic assumption is—what the causal factor is and what the outcome is.
If you assume that there is only one model, you are actually saying that economics is some sort of science. As far as I am concerned, it is a science only in terms of the science of alchemy. You can have the old story about light bulbs and economists. You have as many theories, in reality, as you have economists—and sometimes more. The reality is we cannot put into legislation some assumption that there is one theory and one way and that somehow or other economics is a mathematical science. It is not. There are some ways of describing what we know. There are never ways of proving what we know within economics. It is not that kind of study.
I think if we assume that there ever can be a situation where there is only one way of modelling, it is the assumption that classical economics is the only way of looking at things. A number of years ago I was talking to a lecturer in economics at the University of Western Australia. I said, `Look, it is extraordinary to me that those people who have never been out of the system teach Keynesian economics as if it is a branch of classical economics.' This chap never had been out of the system. He looked at me and said, `It is, isn't it?'
That is what we are suggesting here today: that somehow or other, economics is something that can tell us what to do; that it is some sort of science that can be put into a mathematical formula and that there is a right formula—that there can be a right formula that applies to a particular situation. I would firmly and vociferously say that it is always a theoretical construct and your assumptions will differ depending on which angle you take it from. On the cost of production, do you take classical economics, Marxist or Keynesian economics? Depending on which angle you come from, the causes and outcomes will differ; and to assume anything else is alchemy.