Senator MARGETTS(1.27 p.m.) —In relation to what the minister has just said, I would like to put forward a challenge. I am ready any time, Minister, if you want to take me on in a public forum point by point on what Greens policies do and say in relation to development; in relation to the economic benefits of diversity, ecological sustainability and appropriate scale of development; and in relation to structural adjustment versus regional based development and community based development. Any time, any day that I am available I will take you on in public. I have the background and I have the theory. I have spoken to a number of people over years and years. Any time you want to debate that in a public forum I will take you on.