

- Title
AGED CARE BILL 1997
AGED CARE INCOME TESTING BILL 1997
AGED CARE (CONSEQUENTIAL PROVISIONS) BILL 1997
AGED CARE (COMPENSATION AMENDMENTS) BILL 1997
In Committee
- Database
Senate Hansard
- Date
25-06-1997
- Source
Senate
- Parl No.
38
- Electorate
NSW
- Interjector
- Page
5092
- Party
ALP
- Presenter
- Status
Final
- Question No.
- Questioner
- Responder
- Speaker
Senator FORSHAW
- Stage
- Type
- Context
Bill
- System Id
chamber/hansards/1997-06-25/0019
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Hansard
- Start of Business
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AGED CARE BILL 1997
AGED CARE INCOME TESTING BILL 1997
AGED CARE (CONSEQUENTIAL PROVISIONS) BILL 1997
AGED CARE (COMPENSATION AMENDMENTS) BILL 1997- Second Reading
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In Committee
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator FORSHAW
- Senator LEES
- Senator FORSHAW
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator BISHOP
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator BISHOP
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator BISHOP
- Senator FORSHAW
- Senator WOODLEY
- Senator NEAL
- Senator ELLISON
- Senator COONEY
- Senator ELLISON
- MATTERS OF PUBLIC INTEREST
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QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
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Superannuation Surcharge
(Senator SHERRY, Senator KEMP) -
Greenhouse Gas
(Senator TROETH, Senator ALSTON) -
Child Care
(Senator O'BRIEN, Senator NEWMAN, The DEPUTY PRESIDENT) -
Social Security Fraud
(Senator PATTERSON, Senator NEWMAN) -
Department of Health and Family Services: Training Workshops
(Senator GIBBS, Senator NEWMAN) -
Greenhouse Gas
(Senator LEES, The DEPUTY PRESIDENT, Senator PARER) -
Minister for Small Business
(Senator FAULKNER, Senator ALSTON) -
Indonesia: Maritime Boundaries
(Senator MARGETTS, Senator ALSTON) -
Native Title
(Senator BOB COLLINS, Senator HERRON) -
Higher Education
(Senator McGAURAN, Senator VANSTONE) -
Jabiluka Mine
(Senator REYNOLDS, Senator HERRON) -
Greenhouse Gas
(Senator LEES, Senator PARER)
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Superannuation Surcharge
- ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
- PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
- ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS WITHOUT NOTICE
- PERSONAL EXPLANATIONS
- PETITIONS
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NOTICES OF MOTION
- Introduction of Legislation
- Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade References Committee
- Community Standards Committee
- Gifts to the Senate
- Consideration of Legislation
- Greenhouse Gas
- Great Barrier Reef Marine Park Regulations
- Unemployment
- Conference for Older Australians
- Greenhouse Gas
- Introduction of Legislation
- Treatment Works Week
- Greenhouse Gas
- Greenhouse Gas
- Greenhouse Gas
- Endangered Species
- ORDER OF BUSINESS
- NOTICES OF MOTION
- COMMITTEES
- SOCIAL SECURITY AMENDMENT (ENTRY PAYMENTS) BILL 1997
- COMMITTEES
- SUN FUND BILL 1997
- KALPANA CHAKMA
- LOGGING AND WOODCHIPPING
- COMMITTEES
- COMMUNITY SECTOR SUPPORT SCHEME
- MATTERS OF URGENCY
- COMMITTEES
- BUDGET 1996-97
- COMMITTEES
- TELSTRA
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COMMITTEES
- Regulations and Ordinances Committee
- Regulations and Ordinances Committee
- Regulations and Ordinances Committee
- Scrutiny of Bills Committee
- Scrutiny of Bills Committee
- Corporations and Securities Committee
- Employment, Education and Training References Committee
- Finance and Public Administration References Committee
- Economics References Committee
- Reports: Government Responses
- Reports: Government Responses
- DOCUMENTS
- BUDGET 1997-98
- BOUNTY LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL 1997
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HEALTH INSURANCE AMENDMENT BILL (No. 1) 1997
CARRIAGE OF GOODS BY SEA AMENDMENT BILL 1997
AVIATION LEGISLATION AMENDMENT BILL (No. 2) 1997 - BILLS RETURNED FROM THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
- SOCIAL SECURITY GUIDELINES
- ORDER OF BUSINESS
- DOCUMENTS
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AGED CARE BILL 1997
AGED CARE INCOME TESTING BILL 1997
AGED CARE (CONSEQUENTIAL PROVISIONS) BILL 1997
AGED CARE (COMPENSATION AMENDMENTS) BILL 1997 - ADJOURNMENT
- Adjournment
- DOCUMENTS
- QUESTIONS ON NOTICE
Page: 5092
Senator FORSHAW(12.07 p.m.)
—Senator Lees, I am quite aware
of the fact that these amendments relate to that issue of the complaints. The point that I was making is that what the Democrats have signed off relates to reviews of the legislation. There are no other amendments coming from the government, and I do not see any from the Democrats, that put into place in the legislation a capacity for that wholesale review to occur in two years, for a review in three months and for a single instrument.
The only measure that exists in the legislation is this one that relates to handling of complaints from individuals. Senator Lees has spoken about that and, as I have said, we do not object to that. We will support these amendments, but there are no other amendments that reflect this agreement. The point that we are trying to make and to which we want some answers is: why not? At the end of the day, what you are left with is simply still a mechanism for individual complaints to be dealt with. Does this process also allow, for instance, for systemic complaints to be made—complaints that go beyond the complaints of individuals? If it does, how does it do it? That is the point that I am making.
Whilst I understand that we are specifically dealing with amendments 1 and 2, amendment 2 actually refers to clause 96-3 in the bill, which relates to the establishment of committees and which presumably could also at least provide for potential establishment of some broader based committee looking at broader issues. Amendment 3 contains a specific amendment to clause 96-3, so the point is that you cannot actually discuss amendments 1 and 2 without reflecting or commenting upon what is contained in amendment 3.
I understand precisely what Senator Lees is saying, but we want to know where in these amendments and where in the legislation there will be any legislative basis for conducting the review and assessing the operation of the instrument, which has been identified by the Democrats and the government as being so crucial to their agreement, to getting the Democrats to now support this legislation. Only a matter of a couple of days ago, it was understood they probably still had major concerns. Where is it? We cannot see it. It is not there. It should be there if it is so integral to the operation of this legislation as it is brought on stream over the next year or so. That is the question that we want answered. Clearly it is not there. The question is: why not? It appears to us that the Democrats have been sold a big con here.