Senator ELLISON (Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister for Health and Family Services and Parliamentary Secretary to the Attorney-General)(5.03 p.m.) —Firstly, in relation to the comparison of those people who seek counselling at the Family Court as opposed to the community agencies, the best I can advise you at this stage, Senator Harradine, is that, in the year 1995-96, some 31,500 people sought counselling in the Family Court jurisdiction. In the year 1994-95, some 90,000 people sought counselling in the community sector. I have not been able to obtain figures which relate to the same year but we believe that those figures would not have changed greatly—one would imagine that they would be roughly in the same order. So, in round terms, you would have one to three when comparing how many go to the Family Court for counselling to those who go to the community agencies such as Relationships Australia and Centrecare. So, it seems that by far the majority of people choose to go to those agencies run in the community.

As to the government's policy in relation to marriage and relationship counselling, I understand that some 34 centres have been approved. However, the community education program is yet to start and I understood that there was some half a million dollars dedicated to that. That has yet to start, but those centres have been approved.

You also raised the question of the effect that this might have on community agencies. Some concerns have been expressed to the government from the community sector, and those concerns are being taken up. Certainly, I will take up with the Attorney-General the matters that you have raised here, and they, no doubt, could have some relevance to the regulations that come into play. I think I have covered the questions that you asked, Senator Harradine. Forgive me if I have missed one. Was there another one?